I don't want to derail the thread re sermon length, but thought I would share some situations that cause seasoned, mature Christians to advocate for shorter sermons and services. That I have known of or been involved in: The lady who broke her leg, and when she could come to church could not stand when called to AND could not sit more than 1 1/2 hours without extreme pain. Sadly, her pastor would ridicule the 80 something saint when her son would have to take her home before the service ended or bring her late so she could hear the full sermon. Folks with jobs on Sunday. Sometimes those in the helping professions like cops, nurses, e r docs, etc do some major time trading in order to be at church for set length of time. Or folks take less pay and miss half a workday so they can attend Sunday morning but may have to be at work on time Sunday pm. Folks who take seriously the importance of family time and raising children. Church should help the children love Jesus, not make them loathe church and then toss over mom and dad's faith because they suffered so from it as kids. Many of us are actively bringing people to church. If you make "how long can you sit" a test of faith, they may not be back and may never come to Christ. Or at least never return to church. I do free daycare, drop in and emergency care welcome, in order to become part of lost parent's lives. That earns me the chance to get their kids in church. Sometimes I start at 5 a.m. receiving those kids. By SS I have often fed, dressed, fed them again, and gotten them to church. I may have kids from tiny infants through teens. YOU may feel it is important to cover all your ground this week, instead of breaking it up. But I may have worked all week to get the kids on a schedule where church will not interfere with food and naps. If I let you do that, and send cranky kids home, I may never get them back in church. Remember the old saying "there is no I in team." We are a team at work in the church. You are equipping us to do the work of the ministry. You aren't supposed to make the ministry HARDER. And if you are even tempted to think "why can't they give God two hours a week" let me share these thoughts: First off, you are not God. Secondly, we may have given God 80 hours that week. Don't judge that the only time we are "giving God" is what time we listen to you preach.