What would you do ?

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  1. pinoybaptist

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    You come home one night from work and there's this guy sitting in the hallway. You don't know who he is, and, come to think of it, you don't even know who your neighbors are in the apartment building, much more the floor where you are at, where this guy is sitting.
    He doesn't look unkempt, but he's sitting there, and he looks like a mean character, but you don't really know that.
    You assume that he lives in one of the apartments on your floor and probably got locked out, or something, so you let it go at that, and retire for the night, but the next morning, you go out to go to your favorite bakery/cafeteria, and there he is, asleep on the floor.
    You tiptoe past him and go about your business, and you come back, and he's still there, asleep, or at least laying down on the floor, because his feet are like tapping the air.
    You go into your apartment, but you're bothered.
    You've been in the hood for 9 months, and found the area generally peaceful, with working folks, who leave each other alone, but this is something new to you.
    Do you go and call the leasing office and tell them about it hoping maybe they'd send some sort of security to take care of this ?
    If you do, the next problem is will they handle this discreetly in such a way as to not put you on the guy's "folks-to-get-even-with" list ?
    Do you call the cops ?
    Do you talk to him ? Maybe offer him something hot to drink considering he's been on that cold floor all night long ?
    But what if the guy was a wee bit off his rocker and attacks you ?
    What would you guys do ?
     
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    I would have talked to him the first time I saw him. "Are you waiting for someone?" or "Are you locked out"? or something like that.

    What I did next would depend on how he responded.

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    I would probably talk to him or have someone with me when I talked to him if I felt insecure. Go from there.
     
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    I told my wife to fix up a hot plate and I'll take it out to the guy, but she begged me not to do that.
    Couldn't blame her, too.
    She's 68 and I'm 63 and we're just two old crows living in this nest in this hood in this town.
    She ain't as spunky as she used to be and I ain't as quick as when I was 40.
    So we did the next best thing, hopefully.
    Called the leasing office who called their security agency who went by with a cop from the sheriff's office.
    I felt real bad about it, because who knows when I might have to sleep on the floor of some building like this guy and need something hot in my belly ?
    But times have changed.
    The country ain't what it used to be, the world itself ain't what it used to be, and trust and hospitality are melting like a snowman in the sun.
    I just hope the guy turns up to be just a decent guy who couldn't get in to where he lives, if he lives around here, who understands the worry of having some stranger sleeping on the floor of your building's hallway.
    If not, then we'll have to be careful coming home at night, at least for a while and hope the guy's not in the habit of making a "get-even-with-you-soon" list.
     
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    I think I may have a little understanding of your fear, but I don't generally operate on fears in these situations. I think I have seen too many homeless and down trodden to have fears, even if they may be reasonable (what is a reasonable fear?).

    If he was drunk, yeah, call the po po. Or the Leasing office. But he might be homeless or locked out or hungry or....
     
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    I can understand your dilemma. Calling for someone to investigate the situation is not unreasonable, if he needed help then the police should be able to guide him to help, if he is locked out then the leasing office can help. ( how come he has not called the leasing office if he belongs there) I have seen a lot of homeless folks too and when they are where they are not suppose to be they can get belligerent and aggressive fast. The best thing you could add is to pray for him in earnest.
     
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    My thought is that if he's not supposed to be there, he needs to go. If he's not paying rent to live there, not visiting friends or relatives in the building, or not fixing something broken, he has no business being there, much less sleeping there. Your apartment is a private building, not a public homeless shelter.

    I would have called the cops to come get him and take him to a local shelter. Yeah, he's probably cold, hungry, and tired and you feel sorry for him. He could also be drunk, high on drugs, or a criminal. I think you did the right thing.
     
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    Depending upon situational assessment I would at least have one hand on my firearm (or knife~~I always have one or both) and another on the cell calling law enforcement.

    At 6'2" 260lb shaven head & permanent scowl I don't get hassled, but then I don't take chances either, my family depends up me. When I was single things were different...
     
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    I'm with Mr. Jim.
     
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    What he said.......
     
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    "I see ya out here, dude----can I help you with something?'' "You ain't locked out or nothin'?" Let me give you a hand!!! It doesn't need to be much----just a little contact with the fella and he'll tell ya what he's doin' out in that hallway!!

    All this time I'd have my hand on my pocketknife---ready to whip it out!!!!:laugh:
     
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    I prefer a "pocketgun". :smilewinkgrin: Them rowdies down here in S. Texas don't get close enough for a pocketknife.
     
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    my, times have changed.
    I spent a few years of youth in the summer capital of my country, the Philippines.
    It's a city in a high elevation, maybe about 5000 feet or more, maybe less, north of where I was born, about 200 miles or so, and they had a US Air Force base up there, called Camp John Hay.
    The place is cool, especially the -ber months (november, december).
    That's also where they have the Philippine Military Academy, a version of the USMA or West Point.
    That city used to be where you could go get drunk and sleep on the sidewalk or the entrance of a closed shop or store and you'd wake up in the morning covered with either a cardboard or a blanket and all your money and your jewelry still where you had them when you went blank.
    Nobody rolled you.
    If you sat on that spot just a little bit more longer with your head on your knees somebody's bound to come along with a cup of steaming black no-sugar coffee for you, and if it's somebody a little more advanced in years maybe a little bit of friendly scolding, too.
    Not anymore.
    I heard from folks that these days, they don't wanna even drink in the pubs or eat late in a restaurant.
    Bad times.
    Sad times, too.
     
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    Gotta think the replies over. I have had a theory for several years that many people are fearful, not because the world is so dangerous, but because there is so much violence on TV and in movies. I have been fortunate. God has led me to many places in our world and I have met many people in interesting situations including beggars and bums. I have been approached by both in a number of countries, including the US. I have never been made to feel uncomfortable by any such person .. and no I do not carry a pistol or knife of any kind. I am sure someone will ask what was my response. Often it was to buy them food or give them food or fruit that I had with me.

    I may post something later. First I have to think over the responses already posted and I am sure some that will be posted after this one.

    I would like to hear some personal experiences, when they helped and what happened, from board members.

    :flower:
     
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    well, cbt, it's not that I've gone coldhearted or anything, or that tv's gotten to me, no, it hasn't.
    Last summer about towards midnight this guy approached me in front of a Pizza Hut store with a story that would have made the toughest NYPD homicide detective bawl like a baby.

    I ended up giving him all the money I have in my wallet, plus a little more from the wife.
    When we lived in Montgomery County in Maryland at the height of the sniper thing, I had a homeless guy sleep right in my living room for a coupla nights, and eat all his three square meals with us.
    He was nice though because he cleaned up after he ate, and helped me clear the leaves and debris from the gutter.

    But sometimes you just meet folks that kinda raise red flags for you.
    This guy in the hallway is one such like.
    I don't know how to describe it but guys who've been in and outta prison kinda develop a sort of smirk and a peculiar lay of the shoulders, and being once a homeboy when the word wasn't even around yet, I kinda have a radar for it. And so does my wife.

    Difference is, I had wanted to ignore the radar because I still felt sorry for this guy, but my wife, bless her, she's the one who provided the restraint.
     
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    I believe it does take discernment. I would be more hesitant if I saw a group of men approaching than a single individual.

    There are a lot of people who are down on their luck, especially at the current time and I believe the vast majority of these folk will not harm people that they approach.
     
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    ..and if they don't attempt to harm me or innocent folks around me then I won't have to shoot them..see how it works?
     
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    I can see it in Montgomery County~~I've been to Waldorf loads of times, always seemed like a pleasant enough place, just far enough away from DC, but then it was always daylight when I was there:laugh:
     
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    Waldorf is in Charles County. I've been there at night ... no problem. I've been in Montgomery County also at night ... again no problem.
     
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    A single woman living alone should call the leasing office or the police and not confront or talk to the person. That is just common sense to me, for a woman. Around here, there is lots of crime and lots of people who might seem harmless who are not.

    I had situations in my previous apt a few times where drunk men were just a few doors down from me, sitting on the floor, drinking. I don't think they lived there nor do I think they knew anyone who lived there. I did not call police because I would have had to walk by them to go to the lobby downstairs and let the police in, since the front door was locked (though the back door wasn't, but I thought the police would come in the front way).

    So I called the leasing office and the next time I saw what the office called "courtesy officers" (not really security as they had no weapons), I told them about it. Not that much was done. I never felt totally safe living there and always prayed when I had to come home late at night, park in the parking lot alone, walk into the bldg, go up the elevator, and then down the hallway to my apt.
     

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