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  1. wpe3bql

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    .....funeral message be in this scenario:

    In a very small rural community, the small daughter of a "confirmed agnostic" couple is tragically killed in a hit-and-run car accident.

    The 22 YO driver is the drunken son of a deacon in the church over which you pastor.

    Since you are the only "preacher" available at the time, what would you tell the assembled audience that would include several of this couples' "confirmed agnostic" friends/relatives?
     
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    I'm running out but hubby will never prescribe where a person is going but he gives the clear Gospel so the people there at the funeral know where they are going.
     
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    I'm surprised they let you in the door...more surprised that you are allowed to conduct a sermon....But since you are, preach the gospel. Take yourself out of the equation....And take the thought out that they, the agnostics, are judging you.
     
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    I hope E,W & F you're using the generic sense of "you" because I was never called to preach, and after almost 50 years in God's family, I seriously doubt He'll ever do so......"Teach" is what I enjoy doing, especially when it comes to urging consistent integrity in one's "witness" to others---Something WPE3BQL is still sorely lacking!! :thumbsup:
     
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    Hmmmm....:smilewinkgrin:

    One point though....you never asked how to minister to the 22 year old drunken driver.:smilewinkgrin::love2:
     
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    Just did, my friend!! And I might try doing some "ministering" to his daddy as well. :tear:
     
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    Hope and pray you don't turn it into a bloody temperance speech. It was bad behavior pure and simple....ie SIN.
     
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    I still have to control my TEMPER!

    Actually I've been a member of a couple churches who insist that the communion cup be alcoholic wine, and also ones that say to even think about using anything but grape juice is practically grounds for heresy.

    One church I was a member of, has a deacon who's from Denmark (i.e., a Scandinavian) and runs a chain of their kind of furniture. Back home, and this is basically true for most all of continental Europe, they think nothing about having wine with a meal any more than we here in the USA would think about enjoying coffee and/or iced tea.

    When this man visits his relatives back home, he drinks wine.

    When he's here in the USA, he drinks (at least for public communion) grape juice.

    Is he being inconsistent? Is he a hypocrite?

    Well, I prefer the Judge of All Earth to decide that one.
     
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    Is There Hope in Death?



    Introduction: Illustration # 1
    - Proverbs 13:12 “Hope deferred makes the heart sick.”

    I. King David’s view of death
    - II Samuel 12:18-23
    - David’s men saw the distress in him
    - They were afraid to approach him with the news of the death of his son
    - Once David new his son had passed his focus changed from the moment to the future
    - Illustration # 2
    II. The Apostle Paul’s View of Death
    - Illustration # 3
    - That foundation is this
    - II timothy 4:6-8
    A) We are to be ready (v.6)
    - John 3:3 Unless a man be born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God
    B) Having Done what God has called us to do (v.7)
    - Our ultimate purpose is not just to live, eat, pay taxes and die.
    - Having purpose also give us hope for the future
    - God’s interest in us quality not quantity
    - It is the how, not the how long
    - So long as God is sovereign no one’s life is cut short
    - Will you die today, tomorrow, or later in life?
    - We do not know
    - But we have a need to be ready
    C) We need to be ready now looking at what awaits us in heaven (v.8)
    - Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going.
    - Heb 11:9 By faith he went to live in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise.
    - Heb 11:10 For he was looking forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God.
    III. How we are to view our own death
    - I Thessalonians 4:13-18
    - This will be a quick meeting
    - This will be a heavenly meeting
    - This will be an eternal meeting
    - If we are born again John 3:3
    - We will meet our loved ones who are also born again
    - We will meet our children, our parents, our friends
    - V. 18
    - Comfort provides hope, peace, and joy
    - God’s word provide that comfort of hope, peace and joy
    - Hope is a sure thing not just a guess
    - Hope is not a bet or gamble
    - Hope in scripture means we can know it will happen
    - I John 5:13
    - There is no chance of failure
    - Our future can be 100% secure
    - Illustration # 4
    - Just as they brought that boy school work that encouraged him, I bring you this message to give you the hope of the future as well.
    Conclusion:
    - Ralph before he went to be with the Lord and also now as he is in heaven did and does want his Lord to be glorified in his passing.
    - While this is a time of mourning it is also a time to know that Ralph is with our Lord
    - Illustration of ship passing over the horizon
     

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