Whatever the Decision....Same-sex Marriage Wins!

Discussion in 'News / Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Jun 25, 2013.

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Are You Still Opposed to Same-sex Marriage?

  1. Yes....

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    93.8%
  2. Not any longer

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  3. No opinion either way

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  4. There is nothing the church can do to stop the flood of immorality rushing across our nation

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  5. Everyone has a right to be together, legally

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  6. Same-sex persons should be allowed to marry and adopt

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  7. If legally forced to conduct same-sex marriages, I will give up my ministry

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  1. righteousdude2

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    In California, cities and counties are gearing up for the onslaught of marriage licenses and weddings that will take place as soon as the Supreme Court makes it decision.

    The truth is, if the Courts strike down Prop 8, same-sex marriage wins. If the Courts fail to strike down Prop 8, the California Supreme Court decision to strike down Prop 8 still stands, and same-sex marriage has a historic victory in California, and the dominos will begin to fall all around this nation, as EVERY state will have a form of same-sex marriage by the end of the year (of course these are my opinions).

    What I have found interesting is that here in the "Land of Fruits, Nuts and Flakes [California]" the public opinion poll supporting same-sex marriage has swung from being a negative thing to a positive thing, in just five years. Meaning, according to recent polls, even if the LGBT community had to put same-sex marriage up for a vote, again, it would now win with something like 60% of the popular vote.

    That is simply amazing to me....oh, well, I have been amazed with the rapid fall and decline of our nation's morals and values over the last twenty to thirty years anyhow. This is not the America I was born and raised in, and it breaks my heart to see how it has changed for the worse. If someone would have told me thirty years ago, that this would be the way our nation believes, I would have bet the farm....no way [and yes, I know betting is not Christian].

    If you hear a loud "Whoopee!" coming from west of your home on Wednesday morning, it is because the state and the LGBT community have won the first round of normalizing same-sex marriage [in California, and possibly the rest of this nation]. :tear:

    FINALLY, my biggest fear is that it will not be long before preaching against homosexuality [like in Canada] will be a hate crime, and pastors may have to conduct weddings if asked by same-sex couples. Would you be willing to face charges for refusing to conduct same-sex weddings, or would you like myself, simply give up your ministers license?

    SEE:http://engagefamilyminute.com/2013/...ca-speaking-against-homosexuality-is-a-crime/
     
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  2. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    The Prop 8 ruling isn't as important as the DOMA ruling, given that whatever the ruling, it really only affects California in the short term. The states that have resisted same-sex marriage -- and that is the majority of states -- will not vote it in tomorrow because of a SCOTUS ruling today. It is likely, however, the same kind of non-decisions feared in the Prop 8 case will be rendered in DOMA. That is, the opposing parties in the suit really have no legal standing to argue the case, which would leave DOMA intact as well. That means no state that refuses to recognize same-sex marriage has to do so. While I believe the continuing deterioration of morality in this country will eventually result in same-sex marriage and other such nonsense -- as well as persecution of those of us in the faith -- I don't believe it is all going to come crashing down today. It is simply another small chink in the foundation that will eventually cause it to collapse.

    I'm not a pastor, I'm an addictions counselor. I already offer treatment to anyone, and not just because I am forbidden by law to refuse treatment to anyone. I at least have to make a referral, but I don't have a problem treating anyone, including those in the LGBT community, for addictions problems. So no, my ministry won't be affected. If, however, I was a licensed pastor, I wouldn't give up my license, but I'd risk jail refusing to perform a ceremony for a same-sex couple.
     
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  3. Jedi Knight

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    So what's on the horizon for Pastors? Can they be threatened lawsuits not to marry them or speak out against this abomination?
     
  4. webdog

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    Janet Parshal was just discussing that today. Washington will soon be discussing how to end 'hate speech' online that will eventually lead to everyone, including pastors.
     
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    Oh goodness me, how will we ever survive, I'm so scared:rolleyes:
     
  6. Salty

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    I saw on the news today that a man was fired for sharing a ham sandwich with a co-worker. The problem - the co-worker was Muslim. But since no one ever mentioned religion - the do-gooder had no ideal his friend was Muslim


    maranaatha
     
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    Unbelievable
     
  8. Crabtownboy

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    That was in England. Right?
     
  9. Matt Black

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    Worse. In the UK, we are now having this.

    And so it begins....


    May God help us.
     
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    It happened in England. Praise God for July 4th.
     
  11. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    How long do you think before something similar happens in the US? Teachers' unions here are equally sociopolitically correct in nature
     

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