I've been debating pretty much on both sides of the fence about the question of evolution v. creation for several years now (I'm fairly certain most of you have too-at least on one side or the other). However recentally I have come to realize what might be an inescapable revelation about the two sides (perhaps it just takes me longer to realize such common things). According to Dawkins, who writes about Wise (who is perhaps the most esteemed creationist out there) the following is perhaps true: What does this mean for the Christian? I don't honestly know. I'm going to speculate that the theistic evolutionist paradigm is going to increase in it's adherents, while the Young Earth Creationists (the literal people) will decrease as the evidence becomes more and more accessible to the public (primarily because no one wants their God to be a 'liar'). Eventually the YEC paradigm will fall into such small numbers that it will be held by aproximately the same amount of people who still hold to geocentricism. Of course I, and the majority of science could be wrong, in which case a sever paradigm shift could occur-destroying some now fundamental theories in science. The result may or may not mean the increase of YEC (depending entirely on what the new paradigm is). However seeing as neither of these events are likely to happen anytime soon (that is YECs aren't fading away and mainstream science isn't experiencing a paradigm shift), I have to ask: What's the point? I don't think anyone on either side of the coin is changing their minds. I certainly haven't convinced anyone one way or another (depending on which side of the coin I was currently on). So what's the point? I don't think Jesus particularly cares, as long as you accept Jesus as your savior (John 3:16) you will go to heaven, despite the questions to your sincerity (as Bobryan has tried to question). In the end, all of this petty squabbling is actually distracting our attention away from Jesus and away from the message of our salvation. It causes a line in the sand to be formed. An 'us' vs. 'them' mentality of inferiority. 'They' can not be Christian because they believe differently then I. 'They' can not be intellectually honest (or what have you) because they believe differently then I. A belief in evolution is not going to keep you out of heaven, just as a belief in creation is not your ticket *in to* heaven. All it seems like we are doing is engaging in a shoving match and ignoring the bibles 'golden rule' of love thy neighbor as you would love thyself. You are free to debate anything I brought up in this post, but all I'm really interested in is this: What's the point of arguing?