When Jesus said he would fulfill the law, did he also change it?

He said everything in the Prophets and the Psalms...ARE THEY ALL FINISHED???

Was not Jesus also pointing ahead to the future, indicating there was more to come? That EVERYTHING had to be completed?

If you say this applies only to the Law, then, again, the Holy Spririt has no standard by which to convict. That has still not been answered yet.

 

In context, Jesus was speaking about everything pertaining to the death, burial, and resurrection of Himself. It was the events of those few days that Jesus and those two men were talking about. And we know that everything in the law, psalms, and the prophets concerning the events being discussed here were fulfilled/comepleted/accomplished/finished. You seem to be pulling Jesus statement out of the context of what they were discussing and applying it to some future event. It doesn't warrent that. Everything in the law, psalms, and prophets concerning the death burial, and resurrection of Jesus has been fulfilled, so the Holy Spirit can do his job of convicting the world of sin, righteousness, and judgement.

 

It really doesn't matter what the Bible says, or what Jesus or Paul said, does it? Your mind is made up.

So be it.

 

Helen,
No, but I see where we are seeing things differently.

Luke 241327, 44-48 (ESV)
13That very day two of them were going to a village named Emmaus, about seven miles[1] from Jerusalem, 14and they were talking with each other about all these things that had happened. 15While they were talking and discussing together, Jesus himself drew near and went with them. 16But their eyes were kept from recognizing him. 17And he said to them, "What is this conversation that you are holding with each other as you walk?" And they stood still, looking sad. 18Then one of them, named Cleopas, answered him, "Are you the only visitor to Jerusalem who does not know the things that have happened there in these days?" 19And he said to them, "What things?" And they said to him, "Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, a man who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people, 20and how our chief priests and rulers delivered him up to be condemned to death, and crucified him. 21But we had hoped that he was the one to redeem Israel. Yes, and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things happened. 22Moreover, some women of our company amazed us. They were at the tomb early in the morning, 23and when they did not find his body, they came back saying that they had even seen a vision of angels, who said that he was alive. 24Some of those who were with us went to the tomb and found it just as the women had said, but him they did not see." 25And he said to them, "O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?" 27And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.

44Then he said to them, "These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled." 45Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46and said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, 47 and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem. 48 You are witnesses of these things.

When I read these passages, I think Jesus is talking as if everything is complete already - which it is in heaven. There is nothing left to do. Jesus tells His disciples that they are witnesses of these things. So, He is connecting what is already true in heaven with what is going to happen physically here on earth. Hence, I agree that all is fulfilled and we are, like the 1st century disciples, waiting to witness these events in the physical. You seem to be focusing on the physical here and now where we are waiting for His kingdom to come to earth as it is in heaven - where all things are not yet fulfilled here.

 

I agree with Helen, the Law stands today as the practical definition of sin for the regenerate.

Romans 3
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

The prophets also bearing witness to what the law teaches:

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

IMO, the final fulfilment of all things awaits:

2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Then there shall be no need of the Law.

HankD

 

Addendum: That should be "for the unregenerate" above, first sentence.

HankD

 

I’ll give my answer...

Read the entirety of Leviticus 25.

Leviticus 25
23 The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.
24 And in all the land of your possession ye shall grant a redemption for the land.


Like 21
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh...
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

The Redemption of the Land of Promise awaits fulfillment.