Where is Third Heaven?

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  1. Zaac

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    We've got first heaven where the birds, clouds etc, are.
    We've got second heaven where the moon , the stars and sun, etc. are.

    Where is Third Heaven in which dwells Jesus Christ and God the Father? Is it the edge of the universe?
     
  2. clark thompson

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    I have hear it may be located behind the north star but we as physical beings can not enter a spiritual world.
     
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    1. First heaven the air we breath our atmosphere

    2. Second heaven outer space

    3. Third Heaven which is actual heaven or where God dwells
     
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    Yup. :thumbsup:
     
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    Pure speculation, but no, I do not think it is at the edge of the universe. God's nature suggests a higher dimension.
     
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    :thumbs::thumbs:
     
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    You are very good at science and math, where do you think God physically (that is probably the wrong word) resides, another dimension or somewhere we cannot understand like the concept of eternity?
     
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    Somewhere....

    ....out there! Don't fret or worry Zaac, He got us here and will get us there when the time comes! :smilewinkgrin:
     
  9. Zaac

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    I know. I just like to think about it some time and wonder if Jesus will go fishing with me in another galaxy? Or if we can sit over all of the universe and see it all. Or if we could go a gazillion times faster than the speed of light, could we travel fast enough to make it to the edge of the universe and into third heaven?

    Which way would we go? Up? DOwn? Left? Right? Angle of 15.983 degrees or 117.592 degrees?

    Would we eventually run into a circle?

    Is the universe round? square? amorphous?

    I wanna know!!! :laugh:
     
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    I think this might have some biblical support.....

    From Pastor Culver;


    I take from this the idea that It is not necessarily ....far away....but rather near .......yet another realm....
    The natural realm is currently visible...the eternal realm is visible....but not with our physical eyes unaided by the Spirit of God.
     
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    Honestly, I don't know. My speculation of the "residence" of the Eternal would be in "physical" terms and entirely different nature. If our assertion that God is omnipresent ( I believe that it is) than that would imply and entirely different dimensional existence. Physics, historically has limited our universe to 3 (4 including time) dimensions. Recently, physicists have convincingly argued for as many as 10 dimensions in our universe. Mathematics, being entirely symbolic and more theoretical does not limit itself in the number of dimensions. It can be quite routine in math to consider "n" dimensions..

    All that said, I just don't know, but to me "heaven" is more about the presence of our God. We are told the "old" will pass away and He will make all things new, whether that qualities that we experience today, in terms of the physical, is unknown.

    I should say, from a "mathematics" perspective, a 6 dimension object can share all the properties of a 3 dimension object, while also being able to "pass through".
     

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