I happened upon this video on YouTube concerning the elect and election and found it very interesting. Almost every verse we use as a proof-text whether Cal or non-Cal is addressed. I believe Skan and Van will especially enjoy this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHnFbbcLYxo This fellow argues that the Jews are the elect, and that we as non-Jews or Gentiles are simply graffed in. He uses many OT scriptures to support this view. I hope folks will at least view the video before making comments. Edit- I want to make it clear I am not endorsing this fellow, as I know nothing about him (denomination etc...), I simply found this video very interesting and thought provoking, even concerning my own understanding of certain verses concering election.