Who Made Satan? View point of Andrew Wommak. Please give your thoughts!!

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  1. TaliOrlando

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    Who Made Satan?
    By Andrew Wommack

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    Most Christians believe the answer to that question is obvious: “God created Satan.” But that is not really true. God created Lucifer. That may seem like a small distinction at first glance, but once you understand who really made Satan, it will change your perspective of him forever.

    You will never again doubt your authority over the devil. You will realize that he is an inferior being, unable to do anything without the cooperation of a human being. And any fear you have of him will disappear as you realize he is nothing but a big zero with the rim knocked off.

    I believe that God created everything, including Lucifer. He created Lucifer as a powerful anointed angel. However, Lucifer wasn’t satisfied with that, and he didn’t remain the anointed cherub that God created him to be.

    Ezekiel 28:13-14 describe him as he originally was in the Garden of Eden:

    “Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.”

    Most people believe that Lucifer took one-third of the angels and rebelled against God in heaven, where he was defeated and then cast to earth. This is all taken from one scripture, in Revelation 12:4, and was popularized by Finis Dake in the Dake’s Bible commentary. I don’t believe that is what actually happened.

    I believe that Satan was originally on this earth in the Garden of Eden as Lucifer. He was God’s number one angel sent to earth to be a blessing to Adam and Eve.

    Hebrews 1:14 says this about angels:

    “Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”

    Lucifer wasn’t sent to the earth to tempt Adam and Eve but to bless them. He was an angelic being sent to be their protector, to minister to them, and to serve them. He was there on a divine mission, still in his perfect state. It was in the Garden that his transgression against God was conceived and carried out.

    Ezekiel 28:15 goes on to say,

    “Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.”

    I have never been able to follow the logic that God sent Satan to earth to tempt man and see how he would respond. As a father, would you take your two-year-old child and put him or her in a cage with a lion just to see how he or she would respond? That would obviously be irresponsible; the child would be no match for the lion. God wouldn’t do that to us, and he didn’t do that to Adam and Eve.

    So, what made Lucifer turn against God? Lucifer watched as God did something for man that He had never done with any other of His creation. When God created man, not only was he made in the very image of God, but he was then given unconditional authority over this earth.

    Genesis 1:26 says,

    “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

    He didn’t say to them, “Now as long as you follow my leading and as long as you do what I want you to do, I will let you have dominion over the earth.” There was zero qualification for this power and authority. God spoke it and that was it.

    God says in Psalm 89:34,

    “My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.”

    In Hebrews 1:3 it says,


    “Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high” (emphasis mine).

    What this is saying is that God cannot lie; it’s the integrity of His Word that holds the entire universe together. Unlike human beings who reserve the right to change their minds, God will not violate His Word. When He told Adam and Eve they had dominion, authority, and power to subdue and rule, it was done.

    Lucifer understood the integrity of God’s words, and when he heard this, I believe his antenna went up. He saw that Adam and Eve had something he wanted but didn’t have: They had unconditional authority. In a way, they had been made the gods of this world; it was theirs to rule and subdue.

    We read in Psalm 115:16,

    “The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.”

    Even though Lucifer may have been God’s number one angel, he still wanted more. He was jealous and envious; he actually wanted to take God’s place.

    In Isaiah 14:13 it says,

    “For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north.”

    The next verse says,

    “I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.”

    Lucifer understood that if he could deceive Adam and Eve into willingly relinquishing their authority to him that he could become the god of this world. He could take the authority that was given to mankind, use it to thwart the kingdom of God, and receive the praise and adoration and glory he wanted.

    Romans 6:16 says this,

    “Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?”

    So, who made Satan? We did! The moment Adam and Eve yielded to Lucifer, he became Satan, the god of this world. You might be thinking, But Satan deceived them. Shouldn’t God have stopped him?

    Read 1 Timothy 2:14:

    “And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”

    Adam knew what he was doing.

    I believe the moment Lucifer transgressed against God, he lost his angelic power. Satan now has no power or authority of his own; he only has what he has been able to deceive people into giving him. Now, that is a powerful statement.

    Think about what that means to you as a believer. When we are resisting the devil and fighting against him, Satan does not have a superior power or authority. He is absolutely dependent upon the cooperation of a human being who will empower him with the authority God gave them.

    Satan is going about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. He is looking for people who will open the door through things like lust, rebellion, strife, unforgiveness, fear, and more. When we yield to those things, we are empowering him to destroy us, and I guarantee you, given the opportunity, he will eat your lunch and pop the bag.

    In this article, I am only scratching the surface on my teaching “Who Made Satan?” and it is only one teaching in my six-part series called The Believer’s Authority. Until you understand the power and authority that God has given you, you will never be able to defeat the devil, receive healing, prosper, and live in victory. Knowing your authority is the key! This teaching is an absolute necessity for every believer.
     
  2. DQuixote

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    Quit watching Andrew Womack. Switch to Adrian Rogers. The latter's already gone Home, but his messages will be around for a long time.
     
  3. Amy.G

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    Interesting story, but I don't see any Biblical support for it. Remember Jesus said; "I saw Satan fall like lightening from heaven." It seems Lucifer became Satan while in heaven, not in the garden.
     
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    Lucifer did not start out on earth.

    Lucifer was "perfect was in the Garden of God - walked amidst the stones of fire - UNTIL the day iniquity was found in him.

    Lucifer fell by reason of his pride.

    Lucifer only had access to Adam and Eve at the tree of knowledge of good and evil - because God would not allow him to torment or harrass innocent, holy, sinless beings.

    Adam and Eve were created in perfect harmony with their Creator. So also was Lucifer. Then he deceived 1/3 of the angels and was cast out of heaven. Still he had no claim to the earth or to any other territory in God's Universe.

    Until Adam handed over the keys that is.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  5. Dustin

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    My thoughts are: No, this teaching is not an absolute necessity for every believer. I wouldn't even subject the grass on my lawn to such utter swill. PERIOD.


    Soli Deo Gloria (and I MEAN IT!),
    Dustin
     
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    Was Satan already on earth when God created Adam and Eve?

    Why did God allow Satan to be on the same earth? :confused:

    Or maybe he and his angels have been there before and God punished them and destroyed the earth before he rebuilt it.
     
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    Read Genesis and find out. :thumbs:


    Soli Deo Gloria,
    Dustin
     
  8. BobRyan

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    No Read Genesis 1:1-2.

    God limited Satan to the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil AND warned mankind NOT to go to that tree.

    Let's call it "a test" a very simple one - but still "a test".

    Works in a free will system.

    You gotta make up a lot of history to come out that door.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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    I have a serious problem with the O.P.

    It contains the word 'Lucifer' 15 times which is 1,500% as much
    as it is used in the KJVs. Yep, it appears in the KJVs
    only ONE TIME.
     
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    • We don't defeat the devil anyway. God did. We stand in God's strength, and resist the devil and he flees. I'm very uncomfortable with some of the modern pentecostal theology that spends more time talking to the devil (rebuking him, etc.) than God. We shouldn't focus on how to beat up Satan...we should focus on our love relationship with the Lord...He'll take care of the rest.
    • "Knowing your authority" is usually KennethHaginSpeak for "say these magic words and get rich and never be sick!"
    • "Receive healing, prosper..." is heretical sewage. Christians have no promise of being rich or never being sick. If this guy thinks that God is his personal Santa Claus, he will have another think coming.
    Please run from stuff like this, Tali. It is garbage. It is Americanized selfishness, masquerading as Christianity. This flawed theology puts us in charge of God...and is thus something to be thrown out like day-old bread.
     
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    HAHA the OP sure makes it all sound like a bed of rose's and fairtales lol

    Satan is powerful and thats not all in our heads he does have real power!
     
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    So God wants us sick and poor? Sounds like really good news, doesn't it? :wavey:
     
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    I dunno...ask Paul, who had a thorn in the flesh, and who lived in prison.

    Ask the disciples, who were all martyred, save one.

    Ask John, who lived his final days in exile.

    Ask the scores of 1st Century Christians, who were imprisoned, maimed, and killed.

    Every last one of them would scream, "Yes, it is worth it. I count present things as Rubbish for the sake of knowing Christ!"

    Prosperity Gospel heretics are more concerned with the Here and Now ("God wants me to have lots of money and perfect health...I just have to 'speak it into existence.'") than with the hereafter and forever. All this nice merchandise we get in Jesus' name will burn anyway. No matter how well we are, we'll get sick and die one day, righteous or not.

    Name it and Claim it is heresy, pure and simple. It makes God our butler. He becomes a divine Santa Claus, and we're His boss. What a load of sewage!

    God is God. He is Lord of all. He owns a cattle on a thousand hills. He owns the hills, too. If He wants me to have a buck or two, fine. If not, He does not owe it to me. If He wants me to be well, great! If not, He doesn't owe me that, either.

    If anyone believes this prosperity mess, you can pretty much count on this:

    • Becoming disillusioned later when it doesn't work out like Kenny Hagin or Kenny Copeland, etc., said it would.
    • Disillusionment when you discover the selfishness of these name it & claim it mouthpieces (their extravagant lifestyles, yet they beg for more money).
    • Hard times and sickness will hit you...whether you speak it into existence or not. They hit everyone, at some point. Question is, is your God in charge when those hard times hit? Mine is.
     
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    John 16
    These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.''



    1 Peter 5
    8Be of sober spirit, be on the alert Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

    9But resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experiences of suffering are being accomplished by your brethren who are in the world. 10After you have suffered for a little while, the God of all grace, who called you to His eternal glory in Christ, will Himself perfect, confirm, strengthen and establish you.


    1 Peter 4
    12Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you;

    13but to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation of His glory you may rejoice with exultation.
    14If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.
    15Make sure that none of you suffers as a murderer, or thief, or evildoer, or a troublesome meddler;
    16but if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be ashamed, but is to glorify God in this name.

    17For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?



    2Cor 12
    7Because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, for this reason, to keep me from exalting myself, there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to torment me--to keep me from exalting myself!

    8Concerning this I implored the Lord three times that it might leave me.
    9And He has said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness " Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me.

    10Therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ's sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.



    1 Cor 11
    26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until He comes.

    27Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord.
    28But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup.
    29For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly.
    30For this reason many among you are weak and sick, and a number sleep.
    31But if we judged ourselves rightly, we would not be judged.
     
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