Who was the first Christian?

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  1. Gup20

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    It's been a while since I've posted here, and I can't remember if I ever brought up this question... so here it goes:

    According to the Bible, who was the first Christian?
     
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    Acording to I Hessakia it was Dr Bob:laugh: :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Nt, John the Baptist. You can't get much earlier than in the womb :D
     
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    HP: What about Abraham?
    Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
     
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    Abraham, and other Old Testament saints, were counted righteous by their believing God.

    As for the first to receive the gift, of divine faith it was Peter. Remember Christ said on this rock, I will build my Church. Not based on Peter, but the divine gift he received, of faith. Peter would probably have to be considered the first member of the Church, according to that.
     
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    Define what you mean. Do you mean the first to have faith in Christ Jesus?

    Then it is Adam.
     
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    I believe Paul defines Abraham - several times - as the first Christian.

    Gal 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
    7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

    Rom 4:16 Therefore [it is] of faith, that [it might be] by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

    (and as Heavenly Pilgrim says:)
    Jhn 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
    Jhn 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw [it], and was glad.


    Abraham was considered by Paul to be a believer in Jesus Christ.

    Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

    Of course, this reference points to Genesis 15:

    Gen 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.
    6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

    So Paul states that God preached the Gospel to Abraham before the Gospel even existed - specifically Christ - and this is why Abraham's faith was counted as righteousness:

    Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed.
     
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    "Christian" is only the popular designation for people who live under God's social contract in this dispensation. It was originally the local equivalent of "Redneck."
     
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    That's why I qualified it with NT :)

    If we are talking Christophanies...that's a whole 'nother thing.
     
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    I know some who are both :laugh:
     
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    Perhaps a better question would be: Who was the first person to be "saved by grace"?
     
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    Eve was the first person saved by grace.
     
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    How much faith did Adamah have? I'm curious.
     
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    And your scriptural basis for that is?

    And you find this in scripture?

    If these were the case, then the storry of the rich ruler and the begger would speak of Adam or Eve's bosom, rather than Abraham's bosom.
     
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    Eve sinned before Adam. She didn't die on the spot. She receive God's grace. She was one of the elect.
     
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    It was Mary.
     
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    HP: What significance would you see if one was to die on the spot? Would I be correct in assuming that you might believe that if one would die on the spot that they would not be a recipient of God’s grace, and as such not one of the elect?
     
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    The Bible says otherwise:

    Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
    13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
    4 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

    The Bible says it was Adam's sin that brought death into the World. Eve was deceived.

    Adam should have died on the spot, but notice God instituted the first law of substitution as God killed an animal and used the skin to clothe Adam and Eve. Also notice that Adam and Eve's eyes were not opened to the knowledge of good and evil until after Adam sinned.
     
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    I'll go with what the Bible says, personally. That makes the first "Christians" the disciples in Antioch.
    Ed
     
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    One additional note: Adam and Eve wouldn't have 'died on the spot'. God said "in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die". He didn't say "at the instant", but rather "in the day".
     

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