Why Are SDAs Allowed To Post?

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  1. saturneptune

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    The title of the section is Christian Debate Forums (All Christians). The two words inside the parenthesis say "all Christians."

    So, any reasonable person who has followed their posts can only come to the conclusion they are not Christians, but an extra Biblical cult that does not trust the work of Jesus Christ on the cross as sufficient to eternal life. Since they are not Christians, why are they allowed to post? This article puts it together quite well. It summarizes the heretical status of Ellen White as a prophet, denial of salvation by grace, through faith only, eternal security, and do not even know what day is set aside to worship the Lord.

    "Seventh-Day Adventists (or SDA) are NOT Christians simply because they ADD works to simple faith in Jesus Christ. According to the official Statement on Doctrine by the SDA, accepting Jesus as your personal Saviour is NOT sufficient to be saved. SDA's teach that the life a person lives must be taken into account, even after they have died. SDA's believe exclusively in a doctrine called the "Investigative Judgment" where Christ enters into the Holy of Holies in Heaven to decide whether or not we are "worthy" to enter Heaven. I can answer that question for all SDA's right now...NO!!!

    According to the Word of God, NO ONE is worthy of Heaven. We are all sinners deserving of Hell-fire and damnation. But thank God the Father, He sent His Son Jesus Christ into the world to pay for our sins with His blood. Eternal life is a FREE GIFT (Romans 5:15; 6:23), paid for by the blood of Jesus (Colossians 1:14). Tragically, Seventh-Day Adventists ADD good works to salvation, which is a damnable heresy.

    SDA's also ADD the keeping of the Sabbath day to faith in Christ, which is NO faith at all. Either you are trusting Christ 100% or else you are not trusting Him at all. There is a fine line between Heaven and Hell my friend, and the dividing line is faith in Christ ALONE. John 16:6 proclaims, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

    The Word of God teaches that there is ONLY ONE WAY to Heaven, and that is through Christ Jesus. Satan is a master deceiver (2nd Corinthians 11:13-15) and knows that some people are more difficult to con than others, so he must manufacture a false religion that looks very close to Christianity. Seventh-Day Adventism is so cleverly camouflaged by Satan that many Christians even consider SDA a "Christian cult" (such as Walter Martin's book, The Kingdom of the Cults). Mr. Martin is wrong on the SDA's, they are NOT Christians at all. How can you have a "Christian" cult?

    The truth is that SDA's reject Jesus Christ as their Saviour the moment they ADD the Sabbath and their life's work to faith alone. Eternal life is a "gift" (Romans 6:23, "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." A gift cannot have any strings attached otherwise it was never a gift to begin with. A gift simply needs to be received. If any Hell-deserving sinner will simply receive Jesus Christ as his Saviour, then he will be saved, "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name." "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" -Romans 10:13.

    In addition, Ellen G. White is without a doubt the most predominant figure within SDA. There is an entire website dedicated to exposing her. SDA's elevate the writing of this foolish women to the level of the Bible. SDA's have a corrupted view of prophecy, akin to the demonic heresies of the Jehovah Witnesses. SDA's believe that the Lord began has work of "investigative judgment" in 1844. This doctrine was originally concocted as an attempt to avoid public embarrassment when their prediction that Christ would return failed.

    Yes, the SDA's set a date for Christ's return and He didn't return. So they set another date, and He still didn't return. Looking like idiots, they claimed that they had made a mistake, saying that Jesus had entered into the Holy of Holies in Heaven instead. By the way, the Branch Davidian cult (leader: David Koresh) in Waco, Texas was an offshoot of Seventh-Day Adventism.

    SDA's also require baptism (baptismal regeneration). This is one of the biggest stumblingblocks to faith in the world today. If you place your faith in Jesus + baptism, then you are NOT trusting the Saviour. Baptismal regeneration is a lie of Satan. See: What is Biblical baptism?.

    SDA's worship the Sabbath, a grave mistake. Few people realize that Jesus IS OUR SABBATH. The Old Testament Sabbath day was a ceremonial law, not a moral law. It applied ONLY to the Jews, just as circumcision and the prohibition against eating pork. So for the sake of consistency, SDA's should never eat any bacon or ham, right? Just as with all false religions, it is hypocrisy. The Sabbath was a picture of Christ. Man worked six days, and then rested on the seventh. The Sabbath was representative of man ceasing from his own efforts and trusting wholly upon the Lord instead. This teaching is confirmed in Hebrews 4:3, "For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

    For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works." There is no more Sabbath day today because Jesus was the fulfillment of what the Sabbath pictured. Hebrews 10:1 teaches that the ceremonial laws were only a "shadow" of good things to come. When the sun is directly overhead there is no shadow. Likewise, when Christ fulfilled the Sabbath, it was no longer needed. If we rest in Christ (place our trust upon Him), then we will have our sins forgiven and go to Heaven.

    I need not go into a lengthy article to expose Seventh-Day Adventism as a false religion. If they are wrong on salvation, they are damned to Hell. I say this with great sadness and with the hope that many Adventists reading this article will forsake their false religion and turn wholly to Jesus Christ."

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Seventh-Day Adventist/sda_not_christian.htm

    The only two cults more far out than them are Mormons and JWs, and they are not allowed to post. So, why are they allowed to post? Why not bring in the Muslims and Hindus?
     
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    I agree completely.
     
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    would it matter in the scheme of things if I told you that Dr. Ben Carson is a 7 Day Adventist? Just wondering.
     
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    :eek: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
     
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    Good morals does not a true Christian make.
     
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    Mormons are champions of a moral life style.
     
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    Sorry to hear that, but, he is running for a secular office, POTUS, if he so chooses. I do believe after months of debate, most of us voted for Romney with a clothes pin over our nose. The question here is spiritual.
     
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    Really...I would have thought a true Christian would have steller morals...LOL, however I know what you are trying to convey. BTW, I could not support the Mormons either.
     
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    So, if I'm reading the OP correctly, (1) denial of OSAS and/or (2) belief in 'baptismal regeneration' relegates one to the status of non-Christian heretic? If that's the case, then--in addition to the SDA--not only Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but also Lutherans, Anglicans, Church of Christ, Methodists, and Nazarenes (among others) are all non-Christian heretics also, as is indeed the entire Apostolic Church of the first millenium. (Quick! better tell them! :smilewinkgrin: )
     
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    I understand your concerns, and it is a judgment call I guess. We have a renegade Pentecostal here currently who is preaching the same works salvation plan as the Mormons and SDAs. I can understand there are many Christians who do not understand one is saved by Grace alone, but I do question the one's who are out right belligerent about it and unwilling to engage in "debate" over the issue and will not answer questions. Maybe question answering should be a requirement for one to be allowed to debate/post here, it is afterall suppose to be about "debate" and not just a platform for preaching. If these folks were made to answer the questions directed towards their povs they would probably choose to leave rather than expose the flaws in their exegesis.

    If I ever ran a site like this, knowing what I know now about these types of debaters, I would require questions pertaining to the issue be answered (even if it is an 'I don't know'), would give warnings when not being complied to, and eventually temporary banning for a spell, until repentance is sought and fellowship then restored.
     
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    Yeah, well some who are lost have morals yet share a hostility toward God. There are many atheist who are this way. I've worked for a retired secular professor who is this way as well. He literally has expressed his hate for God and all Christians.
     
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    Well I hope he enjoys his status as a hater. He will spend his eternity in a very warm place. Better yet...he should spend it in Newark NJ...a fate worse than hell.
     
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    You say so in jest, but I cannot fathom the horrors of hell as it must be beyond finite comprehension. It is a solemn thought, and not much spoken of in the church today.
     
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    My brother.....you have the Holy Spirit & he is the spirit of power. 'God hath not given us the spirit of fear but power.' So go and preach it boldly and forcefully.
     
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    :smilewinkgrin::smilewinkgrin: You left out the Presbyterians!!! http://www.presbyterianmission.org/ministries/today/baptism/
     
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    1- to keep us on our toes
    2- to use the ignore button
     
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    Good one. It also keeps Ellen White in the spot light.
     
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    Well, hopefully keeps her and the SDA exposed as false in many doctrines though also. Guess it's how you look at it :tongue3:
     
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    S/N,

    I did not agree with you initially but the more I read about Seventh Day Adventism the more inclined to agree. One of their leaders admitted that they had to some up with something different to form a different denomination.

     
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    I thought I made a mistake and clicked on the wrong 'reply' button when I saw this above come up on the 'Reply to thread' page. So I repeated the process and the same post came up. I was not making a mistake.

    Why have I thought that I made a mistake?

    Because I read from your reply to the opening post ...

    <<Eze 16:8-9 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine. Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.>>

    ... and thought I want to say thanks to you for your wonderful, Christ-like reply to the opening post.

    But then there came up your true post instead.

    O God, THREE disappointments for old Eber in a row now???

    [I won't tire you with the two disappointments before, they were too heart-rending.]

    Fortunately Mozart is played ... Murray Peraiah ... It really helps.

     
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