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  1. Copper

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    Based on the Word of God, not on society or human law, why are drugs wrong?

    Any thoughts?

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    1) The use of illegal drugs is a violation of Romans 13.
    2) Non-prescripted drugs have trendous potential to harm the body, the temple of the Holy Spirit for believers.
    3) A Christian's testimony is hindered
    4) The influence of mind altering drugs is in clear violation of the principle of "be not drunk with wine"
     
  3. HankD

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    Drugs are NOT wrong unless used in violation of the ordained legal system.

    How can a Christian consume illegal drugs with a clear conscience?

    Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

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    Drugs put the person under the influence of a foreign substance, violating the principle of Eph 5:17. Drugs are most often addicting, putting a person under violation of the principle of not being enslaved to anything. Illegal drugs are a violation of Rom 13.
     
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    Do a study on Galatians 5:20, especially on the word "witchcraft" (pharmakeia). I believe you'll find it is speaking of using drugs. It lists it as a work of the flesh.
     
  6. Copper

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    Amen. Nice to see someone who has studied that out. Isn't that word also used in the Book of Revelations?
     
  7. HankD

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    Yes it is used in one form or another in the Book of Revelation four times.

    Revelation 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries (pharmakeia), nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

    Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries (pharmakeia) were all nations deceived.

    Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers (pharmakois), and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers (pharmakoi), and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

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    It is NOT just the use of "illegal" drugs. At one time both Cocaine and Heroin were legal in this country.

    As one other poster pointed out, "pharmakia" is translated both "witchcraft" and "sorcery" in many translation. "Pharmakia" is the word we get our word "pharmacy" from. What does a Pharmacist do? Dispense drugs. All non-medicinal drug use is "pharmakia" or...sorcery.

    Back in times past, a "sorcerer" would use a "potion" to control the mind of a person. This still goes on to a great degree around the world today. Even our Native American people claim its use for "religious" purposes. Just because we in the West don't see much of it, doesn't mean we get to "re-interpret" Scripture. Sorcery, i.e. "Pharmakia" is evil, in that it seeks to control the mind of another. Be it for "religious" reasons or not, it is still a medium for demonic mind control. What do alledgedly legitimate depression drugs do? Control ones mind. (I'll not get into THAT one for now)

    I remember as a kid, we used to get a kick out of "Cheech and Chong" albums. One of their skits is still with me today. They were talking about some "good stuff" and Cheech Marin said to Tommy Chong, "What happened?" Tommy Chong replied, "I saw god!"

    Pretty revealing huh?

    Personal anecdotes aside; Rom 12:1-2 gives us all we should need to deal with this. How is it that our minds are renewed? By "putting on" the mind of Christ via the Holy Spirit.

    This is why drugs are sinful. They are a medium for either demonic mind control or outright demonic possession.

    De 18:10
    There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
    De 18:11
    Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
    De 18:12
    For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

    What is a "wizard" or "enchanter" or a "charmer"? He is a "sorcerer" in the NT. The Greek word is "pharmakia". Pharmacist. What is a drug dealer? An unlicensed pharmacist. What does the drug dealer want? Control of your mind for the purpose of ill gotten gain. The more he can get you to use the stuff the more control over you he has. And the more control he has, the more you will be willing to sell your own mother to get more. And this is true whether the drug is pot, meth, cocaine or valium or percodan or oxycotin.

    BTW: God in Christ delivered me from 20+ years of that evil stuff. I KNOW what I am talking about. I went from a weekend pot smoker as a kid to a Methamphetamine producer and distributor. In a word, a "sorcerer".

    In HIS service;
    Jim
     
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    Example of an otherwise illegal drug: under the administration of a dentist, if you have ever had a novocain shot then you have partaken of a cocaine derivative.

    Legal intent and administration has everything to do with it.

    Going to the dentist and having your teeth fixed with novocain to deaden the pain is no sin.

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    Revelation 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries (pharmakeia), nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

    This is a list I call the 'favorite sins of the Tribulation
    period'. We must be close to the Tribulation. Oklahoma
    is having a PANDEMIC of meth pharmakeia. There were six
    meth lab busts A DAY in Oklahoma in 2004. I have to sign up
    for my about 24 capsules a month of Pseudoepherdrine Hl
    (lots of upper respratory allergies) which is a pharmakeial
    precussor to meth
    Sudafed is the most well known of the brand names for
    Pseudoepherdrine Hl. "Meth" is short for
    Methamphetamine.

    There is no quality control on meth production. Only try
    meth if you are suicidal, it will kill you.
     
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    1 Corinthians 6:19, 20 would be all one needs to refute drugs.

    Drugs destroy the body. The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit and belongs to God. We have no right to destroy God's property with drugs
     
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    good one, tim...
     
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    We are not to be influenced by anything other than the Holy Spirit. Drugs, legal and illegal can cause us to do things we otherwise would not do.

    I believe legal drugs taken under the direction of a doctor or dentist are permissible.
     
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    Sounds nice and convenient. The only problem is, what is legal is not necessarily right.
     

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