Why did Calvinists abandon the Geneva Bible?

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  1. robycop3

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    I was asked this question on another board while discussing interpolated words in the GB and in the KJV. I replied that I honestly couldn't correctly answer at the time. I DO know Calvin was the benefactor for the Geneva translators, & that the GB had Calvinistic leanings.

    So, does anyone know why the Calvinists abandoned the GB in favor of the KJV years ago?


    I realize that with notable exceptions such as a certain member here who's both KJVO and Calvinist, this isn't the rule any more.(But I don't think that member is a HYPER-Calvinist!)
     
  2. EaglewingIS4031

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    I'm not sure but it may have had something to do with the following.
    The Puritains brought the Geneva Bible the the Americas in 1620. James declared that the Bible to be used in the Anglican Churches was the AV. It was illeagal to print Bibles in the Colonies they had to be produced in the Mother Country, and sold to the colonist with all proper taxes payed of'course. It's called Mercantilism. Only the AV's were printed. By the time of Johnathon Edwards and the Great Awakining the KJV was all that was availible.

    I'm not exactly sure but that's my theory.

    BTW, Robycop, are you Calvinist? As for me I love TULIP's.
    In Christ;
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  3. robycop3

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    No, I'm not a Calvinist.
     
  4. Ben W

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    Is it possible to get a reprinted copy of the Geneva Bible?
     
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    There are several reprints around.

    Amazon has one for $99 (and curiously listed with an author of "John Calvin")

    http://www.capstonebooks.com/geneva.htm has a 1560 reprint for $199.

    http://www.swrb.com has tons of reprints of various old Bibles and commentaries, including Genevas and parallel Bibles (e.g. the Hexapla) that contain the Geneva NT.

    There's one edited by Lloyd E. Berry called "The Geneva Bible, a Facsimile of the 1560 edition" (Madison: University of Wisconsin Press, 1969) but it is out of print and hard to find (I own one! [​IMG] )

    Google and ebay will likely lead you to more possibilities. Ebay often has cheap photocopy reprints.
     
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  7. Dr. Bob

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    Think if the AV1611 (whichever revision) was not allowed to be printed any longer. Or sold. 150 years from now we would be looking for antiques on EBay to try to find an edition. And we have hundreds of millions of copies.

    Now think of the Geneva, produced in VERY limited numbers (compared to today) and could no longer be printed or sold in England/America. In 150 years they were nearly extinct.

    And we are left with the Anglican version, printed under strict Anglican guidelines, and the Geneva Bible (with calvinistic and ANTI-monarchy side-column notes) a rarity.

    I cannot think of WHY a Baptist would want the AV as opposed to the Geneva??
     
  8. Paul of Eugene

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    Because, Dr. Bob, they were raised on it and cannot take a broader view; all their learning and the insights of scholars as to the grand history of translations and textual developments are trumped by what they are familiar with from their own childhood. There is also the matter of "social proof". If everybody else in my church believes it, it must be so.
     
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    Valid point.

    I wonder if the rise of the Anglican Version (AV1611) and same time outlawing the Geneva was a reflection of the drift of the church from solid reformed theology into the morass of arminianism, the fruit of which a few hundred years later slowly corrupted the church in the 19th Century.
     
  10. EaglewingIS4031

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    I agree Dr. Bob.
    But I think the morass of arminianism, though it may be indirectly atributed to the Anglicans and the AV, it can be directly atributed to John Wesley.

    Wesley believed that one could could loose his salvation, and that one could also become fully sanctified in this life. This gave rise to the Hollinesss Movement, then to the Asuza Revival and Pentecostalism, then Charismatics and Neo-Pentecostals, and eventualy into the Word Faith Heresy. All this started because of Wesley, Wesley probably used a KJV.

    On the otherhand Johnathon Edwards was Anglican and Calvinistic and he used the KJV.
     
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    Thanks Brother Natters.
    I downloaded e-Sword.
    Now i'll grab the Geneva.
    I've most of my Bible versions on-line,
    but seee this as the only way to get
    the Geneva.

    I feel like i wasted my $10 for
    STRONGEST STRONGS when i can do it all now
    for free using e-Sword. Oh well,
    if the power goes out during the day,
    i'll have my STRONGEST STRONGS to read [​IMG]

    Rom 10:9 (GB = Geneva Bible)
    For if thou shalt confesse with thy
    mouth the Lord Iesus, and shalt beleeue in thine heart,
    that God raised him vp from the dead,
    thou shalt be saued:


    [​IMG]

    [ August 14, 2004, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: Ed Edwards ]
     
  12. Dr. Bob

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    That Geneva Bible will preach. Does the printed version come with the notes?

    I have a NKJV Geneva Bible (now called Reformer's Study Bible) and it has limited such notes from Calvin.
     

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