1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Why did God create Hell?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by menageriekeeper, Aug 26, 2007.

  1. christianyouth

    christianyouth New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2005
    Messages:
    588
    Likes Received:
    1
    Historians could answer that webdog. The Incas? The Aztecs? The Eskimos? Did they hear the Gospel?
     
  2. webdog

    webdog Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2005
    Messages:
    24,696
    Likes Received:
    2
    Historians have access to a person's mind? That's strange. Can they tell me what I have witnessed and am thinking at this moment? Nobody know's another person's mind or heart. Romans 1 tells us that instinctively we all know there is a God, and Christ is the light that lights ALL men. I'll take Scripture over historians any day.
     
  3. Amy.G

    Amy.G New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2006
    Messages:
    13,103
    Likes Received:
    4
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    Don't you consider unbelief a rejection of Christ?
     
  4. webdog

    webdog Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2005
    Messages:
    24,696
    Likes Received:
    2
    double post
     
    #24 webdog, Aug 27, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 27, 2007
  5. pinoybaptist

    pinoybaptist Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2002
    Messages:
    8,136
    Likes Received:
    3
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Millenial Exclusion.

    In my limited understanding this doctrine says that in the Millenium, there will be those who will temporarily be excluded in the visible kingdom, but what do I know ?
    I'm just the guy who wants to give those who burn kids some hell.:smilewinkgrin:
    Ask the experts.
     
  6. Jim1999

    Jim1999 <img src =/Jim1999.jpg>

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2002
    Messages:
    15,460
    Likes Received:
    1
    Romans 1:19,20 does answer the question about those who have not heard. It says that creation itself is a witness. Years past we often said that if a man seeks God through creation, God will send a preacher to relate the gospel.....But, Pauls does say that "they are without excuse."

    All the elect will be saved!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  7. Brother Bob

    Brother Bob New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,723
    Likes Received:
    0
    Colossians 1:4-6 Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints, For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:

    Colossians 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

    Have they not heard?
     
  8. pinoybaptist

    pinoybaptist Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2002
    Messages:
    8,136
    Likes Received:
    3
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Amen to that !!:godisgood:
     
  9. Brother Bob

    Brother Bob New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,723
    Likes Received:
    0
    Who in his right mind could argue against that. Its when we dive into how we get to be the "elect"..........:)
     
  10. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've heard it called a lot of things, but never "wonderful."

    So now you know who will and will not be in your version of hell? Michael Vick??? You have some supernatural knowledge?

    I don't know anyone who thinks eternal torture would be "good". Otherwise, why share the gospel??

    An infinite deity inflicting eternal torture on mortal beings is certainly nothing to glory in. You paint a picture of a god worse than any monster imagined by the mind of man. This makes a god that is far worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Ghengis Khan all rolled together.

    I tend to agree with Jim on this subject.
     
  11. ReformedBaptist

    ReformedBaptist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2007
    Messages:
    4,894
    Likes Received:
    28

    Sir, I percieve you are in need of an understanding of the rigtheousness and holiness of God. A good study on ALL His divine attributes would clear this up for you.
     
  12. christianyouth

    christianyouth New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2005
    Messages:
    588
    Likes Received:
    1
    'Erasamus, your thoughts of God are too human.'

    Really, they are.


    Do you all see how God's justice is despised by modern Christendom while his love is exalted? Is this not unbalanced? This is idolatry. We can't pick the things we like about God and throw out the aspects that are offensive to our carnal minds. Hell is a biblical doctrine. And yes, it is an infinite deity inflicting eternal torture on mortal beings, and God does ALL things for His own glory, and we should praise every aspect of our creator, including His justice.

    In fact, David often praises God's justice in the Psalms when he says such things as 'Thou hatest all workers of iniquity' and speaking of God coming with vengance on His enemies.
     
  13. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    Afraid not. I happen to disagree with your interpretation. Any deity whose attributes would have it "glory" in torturing his creations is not a deity worthy of worship. My God is not that evil.
     
    #34 Magnetic Poles, Aug 27, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 27, 2007
  14. pinoybaptist

    pinoybaptist Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2002
    Messages:
    8,136
    Likes Received:
    3
    Faith:
    Baptist
    christianyouth:

    I happen to agree with you, except with Michael Vick, and when we put names to deeds.

    The Bible indeed says that murderers, liars, adulterers, idolaters, the fearful, the unbelieving, and all that will burn in the lake of fire, no doubt about that.

    But what makes you so sure that Michael Vick, particularly, will burn in hell ? What do you know about him, really, except that he's into dogfighting and may have participated in the slaughter of dogs that wouldn't have lived anyway, either qualitatively or physically.

    How do you know that Michael Vick's name is not in the Book of Life, and was written there by the Owner of this Book before the foundation of the world, and that the Lord has not set a time when He shall bring Michael Vick to his knees as He did Paul ?

    No.

    You don't know that, and neither do I, or anybody on this board.

    It makes the hair on the back of my head stand on ends when I read anyone pronouncing a particular person as doomed to hell, or designating himself or anybody else as a creature bound to heaven if the basis is his/her repentance and confession of faith.
     
  15. standingfirminChrist

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    9,454
    Likes Received:
    3
    It is interesting that the Word declares that all things were created for His pleasure (Rev. 4:11) and hell is a place God prepared for the devil and his angels (Matt. 25:41).

    Does God take pleasure in torturing people who make hell their choice?

    No!

    The Word says God is not willing that any should perish (2 Peter 3:9). Why would He take pleasure in those who reject Him?
     
  16. menageriekeeper

    menageriekeeper Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2004
    Messages:
    7,152
    Likes Received:
    0
    Anyone want to tackle why a loving God would give unending punishment that seems to accomplish nothing? From our human perspective, punishment is given to accomplish a change in attitude and behavior in the one who must endure it.

    What change can everlasting punishment accomplish?
     
  17. Amy.G

    Amy.G New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2006
    Messages:
    13,103
    Likes Received:
    4
    Eze 33:11 Say unto them, [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
     
  18. standingfirminChrist

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    9,454
    Likes Received:
    3
    Great verse, Amy.
     
  19. Amy.G

    Amy.G New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2006
    Messages:
    13,103
    Likes Received:
    4
    Is it punishment? Or is it consequence?

    If I say: MK, don't jump off a 100 story building because you'll die!! And you decide to jump off the building and you die, did I punish you or did you just reap the consequence?

    Just a thought. :)
     
Loading...