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Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by timothy 1769, Jul 28, 2003.
...following the commandment to be fruitful and multiply?
The command to be fruitful and multiply was not for everyone, and even God saw to that in the Old Covenant by means of the Nazirite vow.
By the time of Jesus, there were also "jewish monks" called Essenes who hung out in the desert, studied scripture, and lived in community. They were celibate, if I recall correctly, though not necessarily for life. They were very revered by the people of the time, though authorities like the Pharisees thought that they were nuts.
I have often thought, and some scholars likewise think, that Jesus may have been an Essene for a time, or at least hung out with them. Evidence of this is found in The Lord's Prayer (ie. The Our Father), which scholars point out is basically the same prayer that was used by Essenes on a regular basis. Jesus apparently thought much of this prayer, so held it up as the ideal prayer to his Father.
Why didn't Jesus marry?
Because the Church is His Bride.
Three more reasons for Jezus not to get married.
He knew he was going to die a horrible death, not a pleasant prospect for mrs. Jezus.
People would maybe see his children as demi-gods, not a good thing.
[ July 29, 2003, 08:57 AM: Message edited by: C.S. Murphy ]
Uh NOT! That is NOT a scriptural statement!!!
Jesus would not have been able to leave his father and cleave to a wife while still fulfilling the plan for our salvation.
[ July 28, 2003, 11:23 PM: Message edited by: C.S. Murphy ]
Jesus' life had a preordained purpose. He fulfilled that purpose.
Can you imagine what the wife would be saying considering "all" the travel and time alone Jesus had?
...besides, no woman is going to marry a man she can't change for the better.
being perfectly sinless, shouldn't jesus have fulfilled the commandment to be fruitful and multiply? wouldn't that have fulfilled the law better?
Because He would have created a new race if he would have had children. The sin nature is passed by the man, hence the need for the virgin virth. If He would have had sons they would have had His nature thus creating a race of at least sinless folks if not gods and there could be no other gods. Sinless folks would not need a savior so a non-fallen race would be mixed in with a fallen one. Any daughters born would not carry the sin nature, but if they married a "normal" man those children would have the sin nature. Basically it would have become a mess and God is not the author of confusion so no marriage, no children, no confusion.
About my first post on this thread.
Oops forgot to put in an appropriate smiley after my 3rd reason.
That last one was not to be taken seriously.
Is "Be fruitfull and multiply a commandment of the law"?
If Jesus got married, he would have sinless children and sinning children. Would His children fight each other?
If not, the church will be His wife.
Which is the best for Him?
"Be fruitful and multiply" is a God given command to created beings. Jesus is God, not a created being. God does not have sexual relations (unless you fall under the beliefs of Mormonism )!
Because He didn't want to put up with, "You expect me to believe you were where for three days?"
I am surprised that more articulate people than I have not questioned this, but I guess I will try.
God alone is God. And in His human attributes and body, Jesus would not have passed on semi-godhood to sons. And if it were possible, why just males, theoretically? Besides, their mother would have been a human sinner.
Ultimately Jesus did not marry because He is God the Son. On earth He was completely God and completely man. God came down among us and took on human flesh.
We must be careful to neither downplay the divinity nor the humanity of the Lord Jesus.
Good answer, SheEagle! That is exactly right.
And who said that Jesus had no children? What saith the Scripture?