Many non-Cals (Arminians/Semi-Pelagians) here keep making the same old charges. "If the Calvinistic view of election is true, then the Lord is just indiscriminately picking people willy-nilly. God is just being random -- He's being arbitrary." Please, reconsider your blasphemous representations. Calvinists believe that the Lord is a God of order. He doesn't do anything capriciously. Everything that He does is righteous. His ways are always straight. However, His ways are beyond our ways and thoughts. Please don't charge our view of God as being haphazard in His dealings with the eternal destinies of people. We get the fact that you do not like our understanding from the Word of God of the doctrine of election. Yet you don't have to resort to such blatant sacrilegious comments knowing full-well that we have no such conception of God or that our understanding of biblical election could ever imply such a monstrous thing as a God who rules in a will-o'-the-wisp fashion. Mortals can be guilty of being arbitrary -- why would you even dare to say that Calvinists think that God is running around the universe playing fast-and-loose with eternal destinies? Can't you disagree with what you think we believe without stooping to the level many of you have lowered yourselves to? By saying such things you have more and more confirmed that you are the objectors who Paul dealt with in Romans chapter nine.