1 Logic is of God. It is not subjective. It is not a matter of perspective. It is not human. It comes from God as much as love and holiness come from him. A theology that is not logical is as much false as a theology that is not holy. Logic means that something cannot contradict itself. It cannot be something and not be that something at the same time. God cannot exist and NOT exist at the same time. God cannot be all-powerful and not be all powerful at the same time. God cannot be all-knowing and not be all knowing at the same time. God cannot be truthful and not be truthful at the same time. THE ONLY REASON WE CAN TRUST ANYTHING THAT GOD SAYS IS BECAUSE HE IS LOGICAL. HE IS INTERNALLY CONSISTENT. 2 There is no point in discussing anything if logic does not apply to it. Take the temperature at which water freezes in a particular environment. If it can freeze and NOT freeze at 32 degrees at the same time then how is anything anybody says about water freezing relevant?? Bob- "I contend that it freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit." Tom- "I contend that it DOESN'T freeze at 32 degrees Fahrenheit" Bob- "Here are my reasons..." Tom- "Here are MY reasons..." So why do ANY of the reasons and arguments matter if there is no rhyme nor reason to why and how water freezes? Both can be completely right and completely wrong all at the same time. Their reasons and arguments can be TOTALLY valid and UTTERLY invalid all at the same time. Why? Because there is no logic to guide them. But if water most assuredly always freezes in this particular environment under these particular conditions at 32 degrees Fahrenheit then arguments and reasons matter. They are EITHER valid or invalid. The same is true with theology. If God can know everything that will ever happen and NOT know many things that will happen at the same time then NOTHING ANYBODY SAYS IS EITHER VALID OR INVALID or EVERYTHING EVERYBODY SAYS CAN BE BOTH VALID AND INVALID- therefore nothing anybody says means ANYTHING. So why even talk about it? WHY HAVE BAPTISTBOARD if logic does not reign? BUT IF GOD IS LOGICAL... Then he CANNOT know everything there is to ever know about everything and NOT know some things at the same time. NOW one can make valid points and prove a theology right or wrong. Why? Because God is logical- he is internally consistent. His attributes are not fluid and changing but they are concrete and immutable. Words MEAN something. Things are either TRUE or FALSE. Conversation is thus meaningful. But for those of you who do not care if logic applies to what you purport- there is no point in ANYONE EVER talking with you.