Wild Finish to Michigan vs. Michigan State Game

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  1. InTheLight

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    Why didn't Harbaugh simply call a running play? There's no time outs left on either side and 10 seconds left in the game. Stupid. But then, he's not the brightest bulb in coaching.
     
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    Probably don't want to run the ball on fourth down at mid field and leave the Spartans a play away from a potential game winning field goal. They aren't going to run out the clock. I'll say this for Harbaugh, the guy is known for elevating whatever program he goes to. Michigan has already benefited from his leadership and these aren't even his players yet.
     
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    The ball is at the 50 yard line. Any running play is going to eat up at least 4 - 5 seconds. Now MSU would have one play, either a hail Mary or a 67 yard field goal. These possibilities assume the running play did not get a first down. Another option would be to put the QB in the shotgun and have him run around for 10 seconds.

    Yes, Harbaugh's coaching style works on kids.
     
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    You are right. I forgot that the Spartans were out of timeouts. I'd just have the QB rollout and tap dance until the pressure got too hot and then just heave it down the field. A running play is probably going to get stuffed pretty quickly in that situation.

    As for Harbaugh, remember that he took the exact same team that went 3 and 13 the year before in San Francisco and took them to 13-3. To act like Harbaugh is some mouth breather isn't consistent with what he's accomplished at Stanford and San Francisco and now Michigan.
     
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    10 seconds is too long to run up the gut, which would likely take less than 5 seconds because the defense would be looking for it. And too long to take a chance on the QB running the time out because a desperate defense would really dig to get him, maybe within field goal range (though I understand MSU's kicker is not that good); regardless less field to score by any means. So I see 2 choices-- punt, or else drop back to pass, release the ball very high toward a sideline. Obviously the punter had done his thing many times in that game with no bobble like that, so there was probably no reason not to trust him to just handle the ball and kick it away. And since MSU put no one deep, a 'line drive' punt would have won the game for UM. So, the right decision was made. A "hail mary" pass works... 1 in 15-20 times, or something like that.So other rarer lone possibilities also work on rare occasions. And indeed, MSU not putting returner back meant all 11 were up front, and did that make the touchdown possible, when 1 less blocker might have foiled them? I give Dantonio the benefit of the doubt that he saw that as the only possibility, however weak, if UM lined up to punt and MSU went all-out pressure.
     
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    QB runs around out of the shotgun then throws a pop fly pass out of bounds. That's the best chance to eat up the clock.

    Punting the ball will give MSU one more shot at winning the game on a punt return.

    Running a play on 4th down would probably give MSU one more play to win the game on a hail Mary play. Can the MSU QB throw the ball 60 yards?

    I'd say the odds of scoring on a punt return is better than on a hail Mary play, so if I were Harbaugh I would have run a play on 4th down.

    As to MSU putting 11 guys on the line, that is an unknown when calling the play (and Michigan had called a time out with 10 seconds left) so the assumption would be a return formation.

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    #6 InTheLight, Oct 18, 2015
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