Will Theater Massacre Hasten Total Gun Control?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by righteousdude2, Jul 20, 2012.

?

Have Mass Murders Changed Your Mind on Gun Control?

  1. Yes, most definitely...

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  2. No...

    16 vote(s)
    66.7%
  3. Undecided...but getting close to thinking gun control may be a solution...

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. People kill people, not guns...

    13 vote(s)
    54.2%
  5. I own guns and they'll have to pry them from my cold-dead hands...

    6 vote(s)
    25.0%
  6. Gun control and wackos are two seperate issues...

    7 vote(s)
    29.2%
  7. I have always believed in and support gun control...

    4 vote(s)
    16.7%
  8. The mass murders do not change my mind, but it weighs heavy on my heart...

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
  9. I subscribe to a conspiracy theory to force gun control in America by mass murders...

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
  10. No one answer fits my thoughts. See my comments...

    2 vote(s)
    8.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    10,468
    Likes Received:
    138
    ....just thinkin'out loud....

    Every time we have one of these wackos go off and kill a group of people, the folks seeking total gun control in America gain a tighter foothold. People are growing tired of not feeling safe in public events as well as in their own homes and back/front yards.

    I have a theory that Americans will eventually grow tired of this type of mass murder, and approve gun control.

    How do YOU feel?
     
  2. TCassidy

    TCassidy
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    12,246
    Likes Received:
    1,324
    If there are any rational people left in this country the answer will be NO! In fact, the opposite should occur.

    The theater in Colorado had a posted "NO GUNS" sign so none of those attending the movie were armed. Had some of them been armed there would have been significantly fewer people harmed by the madman.

    Look at the case of the man at the internet cafe in Utah. One armed old man and the robbery ended with no bystanders hurt.

    The more guns people have the less likely this type of madmen will kill multiple victims.
     
  3. carpro

    carpro
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    20,949
    Likes Received:
    299
    Liberal activists will howl, but It's a dead issue.

    The public is overwhelmingly against the weakening of the the 2ND Amendment.
     
  4. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle
    Expand Collapse
    <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2002
    Messages:
    22,028
    Likes Received:
    1
    Agree with TCassidy.

    The evil Fast & Furious set up by the corrupt DOJ was to further a gun control agenda.

    The tragedy of Aurora will ignite the liberal press to scream even more for gun control louder than they have in the past and they will try to stage this to push Romney into a corner on it. Watch and see. They already (ABC) tried to blame this on the Tea Party earlier today.

    Since a lot of the shooter's ammo was bought over the Internet, expect the socialists (progressives) in Congress to bring a bill to the floor to curtail Internet sales on ammo. They probably started drafting it today. It will be interesting to see how many GOP fold.
     
  5. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    Nope. More than likely others would be caught in the crossfire. And don't forget, this lunatic was wearing body armor and a helmet.
     
  6. TCassidy

    TCassidy
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    12,246
    Likes Received:
    1,324
    No crossfire. He was standing just under the screen. Anyone with even moderate shooting skills could have taken him out. And body armor does not lessen the force of impact. Even if only hit on the body armor he still would have suffered the force of impact possibly breaking ribs or even a concussive injury to his heart. And, again, anyone with either moderate shooting skill could hit him in the face regardless of the helmet he was wearing.

    Google the internet cafe shooting in Utah and watch the video. It is much better to be a victor instead of a victim.
     
  7. carpro

    carpro
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    20,949
    Likes Received:
    299
    You would rather the slaughter of innocent people continue than have an experience licensed handgun carrier fire on the gunman?

    His body armor could not save him from a bullet in the brain at 20 yards from a well trained marksman. The helmet he was wearing would not stop a bullet. If it had been, there's always his arms, legs and lower abdomen.

    I'd willingly take that shot. If I miss , I die. If I hit him, a lot of innocent people live. No sense dying like a sheep led to slaughter, or cowering in the floor hoping he kills everyone but me.
     
  8. Alive in Christ

    Alive in Christ
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    3,822
    Likes Received:
    0
    On the contrary, as long as the gun lunatics rule the roost the more our society will revert back to the idiotic "gunsmoke" mentality of the old west.

    There is absolutly no reason for these high powered military "asault" weapons to be available to the general public.

    A small hand gun for self defence? No problem.

    Assault weapons...BAN THEM!
     
  9. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    10,468
    Likes Received:
    138
    71 year old man shoots and chases robbers from store....

    When I first saw this tape, I couldn't believe my eyes. In one way, it was humorous to watch this old man get the drop on the bad guys and chase them out of the door, with guns-a-blazin'! This almost looked like a television cop show?

    The truth is, this story could've ended very differently, with the bad guys killing the old man. Still, the web has many such tapes of store owners taking back the security of their stores.

    I'm glad he wasn't hurt, and I say, "Good for Him!" In fact, they ought to give him a medal!!!

    SEE:http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-man-71-shoots-alleged-robbers-internet-cafe/story?id=16800859
     
  10. carpro

    carpro
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    20,949
    Likes Received:
    299
    I used to feel like that until I woke up to the fact that, when it comes to our personal liberties, that our government run by people like an Obama, is what we have to fear the most.

    And they have some serious firepower.
     
  11. Paul3144

    Paul3144
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2009
    Messages:
    2,378
    Likes Received:
    0
    Do you advocate the violent overthrow of the government of the United States?
     
  12. carpro

    carpro
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    20,949
    Likes Received:
    299
    I advocate the violent defense of our liberties from enemies foreign and domestic.
     
  13. Robert Snow

    Robert Snow
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    4,466
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't remember reading of a crazy person back then going on a rampage like this one. I doubt he would have ran in a saloon and started shooting and doing the damage he did in this movie theater.

    Most hunting rifles are much more powerful than the rifles used by the police and military. If we ban what you call assault rifles, these hunting rifles will be next.

    I prefer a powerful hand gun for self-defense.

    All weapons are made for assaulting something. That's why they are guns. It is a pro-gun control trick to separate one type of weapon from another. It is easier to get them banned by picking them off one group at a time.
     
  14. freeatlast

    freeatlast
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2004
    Messages:
    10,295
    Likes Received:
    0
    Actually gun control is already here. No, it is not absolute but it is gaining ground and it will no doubt become absolute. I find it interesting how gun advocates scream about their rights to bear arms while most at the same time unwittingly are supporting gun control and are helping in the dismantling of our rights to bear arms. :BangHead:
     
    #14 freeatlast, Jul 21, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 21, 2012
  15. freeatlast

    freeatlast
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2004
    Messages:
    10,295
    Likes Received:
    0
    Paul that is why the foundiung fathers under the constitution gave us the right to bear arms.
     
  16. HankD

    HankD
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    15,184
    Likes Received:
    326
    Probably a new TSA-like agency will be born out of these kinds of "man made disasters" :

    e.g. The People's Protection Agency (PPA) which will used as a back door method to weaken and eventually destroy the Second Amendment.

    Expect a pat down and xray violations coming soon to your local theater, malls, schools, etc...

    The better method is for everyone to wear a firearm in public as provided by the Constitution.

    But hey - we wouldn't want to scare the sheep would we?

    OK, we could leave it up to payed armed guards at our theaters, etc.
    That would help lower the rate of unemployment and give retirees a way to make a better living.

    Strange, we allow mass slaughter in our abortuaries and that gets little or no mention by the media.

    BTW, how come it was so easy for someone in full body armour including a helmut and an assault rifle to get into the theater?

    The news coverage seems to indicate that he bought a ticket, went inside, propped open a door went to his vehicle, put on the armour and gun then came back in.

    Is it just my suspicion or does there seem to be something wrong with this picture.


    HankD
     
  17. Jon-Marc

    Jon-Marc
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    2,752
    Likes Received:
    0
    As long as firearms exist, or the knowledge and ability to make them, they cannot be TOTALLY outlawed since criminals can always get them even if we can't.
     
  18. Bro. James

    Bro. James
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,648
    Likes Received:
    16
    Gun control is ambiguous. We had gun control in the Wild Wild West. "Don't take your guns to town, Son." Some guns were checked at the sheriff's office, some were checked at the bar. This was also the time of the 6-gun peacekeeper(not peacemaker). There were long guns, medium guns and derringers-- concealed. Most everyone who could afford one probably had a personal weapon for whatever the aggression. Keeping and bearing arms has been an integral part of the body politic for many generations--since before Nov. 1620. It is also specifically guaranteed in the Constitution of the U.S. as amended. This is the same document which the President, Congress, Judges, and Military swear allegiance to uphold and defend.

    Can the govt. prevent criminal types from buying on the Black Market? Gun running is still a lucrative business--some of our peacekeeping(?) guns cost millions a copy, not to expensive if one has enough crude oil.

    I too have a Remington 870 pump shotgun with changeable barrels capable of shooting birdshot or sabot slugs, any of which could be lethal at close range. The sabot barrel is rifled and scoped for shooting from a treestand--at hogs and deer. We harvest wild meat annually. Sorry if someone has a problem with that--only a true vegetarian should complain--God put the animals for us to use. I find no particular sport in humanely dispatching animals for human consumption. Operators of slaughter houses do not care.

    This weapon could also be used in riot control. I would never point the weapon loaded or unloaded at anyone, with the exceptions of protecting family,self or property; also military orders. We were programmed that way in the 50's and 60's. That kind of program seems to be getting unimportant in the last two generations. There are still more of them out there than is apparent. We probably will not register our guns. We have too much gun control already.

    Peace,

    Bro. James
     
  19. TCassidy

    TCassidy
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    12,246
    Likes Received:
    1,324
    Your ignorance of our Constitutional Rights is exceeded only by your ignorance of American History. The "idiotic gunsmoke mentality" never existed. The two guys facing off in the street in front of the saloon? Never happened. Pure Hollywood. You have been watching too much television.
    There is no excuse for not understanding that the word "assault" is a verb, not a noun. There is no such thing as an "assault rifle." "Assault" is something you do, not something you own.
    You fail to understand the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. The Declaration of Independence speaks of the right that the people have to "alter or abolish" a government that becomes destructive of its proper ends, namely, securing their inalienable rights. "The most important reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, if necessary, at last resort to protect themselves from tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson.

    You can't do that with a small handgun. That takes fire power.
    Keep all firearms available to law abiding citizens. WE THE PEOPLE, armed, is all that protects you from tyranny. Just say "Thank you" then shut up. :)
     
  20. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2002
    Messages:
    5,505
    Likes Received:
    40
    Well stated TC!
     

Share This Page

Loading...