Woman Faces Fine for Supporting Troops

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  1. PastorSBC1303

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    WESTCHASE, Fla., (March 10) - When Stacey Kelley's husband, Army Pvt. David Kelley who is serving in Iraq, sent her a cardboard sign expressing support for U.S. troops overseas, she put it up in the yard of her suburban Tampa, Fla., home.

    Kelley, 24, never imagined that it would raise controversy, or that she would be threatened with a $100-a-day fine if she refused to take it down.

    "I've been in tears. I couldn't believe that they wanted me to take it down," she said. The Westchase Homeowners Association threatened her with the $100 a day for up to 10 days because the sign is in violation of association rules, but Kelley said she was ready to pay.

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    http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060311093909990039&ncid=NWS00010000000001
     
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    Part of the reason I will never buy a house attatched to a homeowners association. I guess she will have to pay the fines or take down the sign.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    As long as it's not for the content of the sign and it's for the sign itself, she should take it down, if it's in the homeowner association rules.
     
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    She faces a fine for placing a sign where signs are forbidden. And there's no way she bought a house and went through closing without seeing the covenants and restrictions. Misleading headline - she is not going to be fined for supporting the troups.
     
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    Yawn. The homeowners association, to try to keep a semblance of abiding by the rule, agreed to a $1-a-day fine.

    It was wrong. If any sign is allowed, all signs should be allowed. Do you suppose it would have been so cooperative with a home owner who wanted to put up a "Bring the troops home" sign next door?
     
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    Good. That thing looks about as tacky as a plastic flamingo.
     
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    The association allows signs that say "For Sale" or "For lease".

    Whatever happened to creativity?

    Let's see.


    "For sale: This Sign", written across the top should do it. [​IMG] :D
     
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    Our homeowners' association also has rules against signs, but the state has overruled that by making it legal to post political signs in your yard regardless of deed restrictions against it.

    We have signs that we put in the yard at Christmas time. I wonder if Stacey's homeowners' group fines people for those types of signs. If not, then the rule is not equally applied.
     
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    They agreed to the rules when they bought the house.
     
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    guiterpreacher said:

    "She faces a fine for placing a sign where signs are forbidden. And there's no way she bought a house and went through closing without seeing the covenants and restrictions. Misleading headline - she is not going to be fined for supporting the troups. " (emphasis mine)

    Not necessarily true. We bought our house in 1996, and never saw (and can still prove we were never provided) a copy of a neighborhood covenant from the early 1980s. We found out about it when a potential new neighbor wanted to install a "manufactured home", which was forbidden by the covenant. (BTW, a lawyer told those who tried to stop the new neighbor that, because they had not kept the covenant up-to-date, it was obsolete and unenforceable. In fact, several of the complainers were proved to have already violated the covenant themselves in other ways).

    Just because something once existed, does not necessarily mean that a new person gets a copy of it, or even knows it existed.

    As to the OP, I heard about this last week on the radio, and what I think I heard said the complaints were really about the message of the sign, NOT about the covenant portion. Thus, the title MIGHT be more accurate than others would suppose. Since I was not there, I do not know.

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    We should all pay the Stamp Act taxes too, because it was a "Law" duly passed by the King.
     
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    Here is an interesting question. Does Christianity provide allowances for going against (man made) laws that do not conflict with God's laws? Consider also the question, does Christianity allow for or provide a way to protest against man's laws? Are the governments laws?
     
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    She knew those rules when she agreed to them. They are not "laws" passed by the government; they are rules passed by a homeowners' association that are made clear (and you agree to them) when you move there. If she didn't like the rules, then she should have moved elsewhere.

    It's like if you move into a neighborhood that has covenants against farm animals, if you move in a couple of cows and some horses, guess what's going to happen?
     
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    All cities have sign ordinances which limit the placement and size.
     
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    This is a neighborhood association, which cannot impose rules arbitrarily, nor after the fact. It's something that she agreed to when she bought (or rented) the house. That's more than a simple sign ordinance imposed by the city.
     
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    I'd be impress if an Army Pvt. could afford to buy a house and I would be curious if their rental contract has the Home Association rules in it. Interesting!! Move the sign and abide by the rules and then post the sign on the roof or in all the windows....something within the guidelines of assocation rules.

    [ March 19, 2006, 08:55 AM: Message edited by: MRCoon ]
     
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    Now with that, I can agree! We should support our troops, and we should be vocal about it. But, follow the rules and laws, unless they are immoral.
     

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