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Women Leading Prayer and Singing...?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by TCGreek, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. Tom Butler

    Tom Butler New Member

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    Paul writes in I Corinthians 11:5 "Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered.......etc.

    Paul is writing to the congregation at Corinth to give instructions on how to behave in church, correcting some things they were doing wrong. The context then, is when they are gathered as a congregation. (See v. 17.) He instructs the women not to pray in church with their heads uncovered.

    Thus I believe Paul condoned women's praying in church.

    Women song leaders in the strictest terms do not have authority over men. They are fulfilling a servant role. They are under the authority of the congregation, as well as the pastor.
     
  2. SaggyWoman

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    She isn't to prophesy with her head uncovered either.
     
  3. Bible Believing Bill

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    Is it also OK if I agree? Your church sounds alot like mine.


    Bill :godisgood:
     
  4. Bible Believing Bill

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    BTW...... I knew Saggy was yanking your chain from the first time she posted.


    Bill
     
  5. Gayla

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    And she was doing a wonderful job, wasn't she?:laugh: :wavey: :wavey: :laugh:
     
  6. SaggyWoman

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    PRAISE JESUS! MY CALLING!:saint: :applause: :thumbs:
     
  7. Dan V.

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    Hillary for President!

    Dan V.
     
  8. Cutter

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    None I know of. That's why I have had women Choristers and call on women to pray whenever I feel so led by the Holy Spirit.
     
  9. EdSutton

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    Oh please! :rolleyes:

    This thread has gotten ridiculous, whether actually intended to be serious or not.

    Have you ever heard the saying "Actions speak louder than words??
    Ed
     
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  10. TCGreek

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    What Scriptures then allow what you described?
     
  11. EdSutton

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    Wrong forum! :BangHead:

    Ed
     
  12. Allan

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    How about in the Upper Room in Acts just before Pentacost, where the women and men were praying together.

    As for singing - "speaking to one another in Psalms, Hymns, and Spiritual songs" - There is no gender qualification nor ciriteria whereby they must do so to the same gender.

    I think those who pray together will sing together - those wonderful mercies of God.
     
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  13. David Lamb

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    Perhaps TCGreek, or someone else who knows New Testament Greek can confirm or deny this, but I understand that the word translated "silent" can mean quietness, or be description of the life of one who does not officiously meddle with the affairs of others. Indeed, in the KJV it is translated as "quietness" in 2 Thessalonians 3.11-12:

    11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
    12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

    If women are to be absolutely mute in church services, then we would have to say that they could not join in the hymns, or even say "Amen" at the end of a prayer.

    Edited to add: Yes! I've been "had" by Saggy Woman's prank too!
     
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  14. SaggyWoman

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    Mr. Lamb;

    I was playing the female devil's advocate. Personally, I sing, pray, dance (in the back hall), cook, clean, and yak all day at church.
     
  15. David Lamb

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    I have heard of choirs :), but what are praise teams? I had in my ignorance imagined that every Christian is to praise His Maker, Lord and Saviour.
     
  16. David Lamb

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    I thought your comments were too extreme to be true, but I wasn't sure! :laugh:
     
  17. tenor

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    A praise team, a term I really don't like, is a small vocal and/or instruemtnal ensemble that helps lead the congregation in worship. These groups are usually in a more "contemporary" style of worship.
     
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    You are not as talented as saggy!
     
  19. TCGreek

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    1. Yes, David Lamb, you are correct about hesychia, "quiet," but the context would have to determine which nuance of the word is involve.

    2. For example, in Luke 14:4, it is clear that the verb form hesychazo means "to be silent, not saying a word."

    3. But such is not the use of the word in 2 Thess. 3:11-12 or 1 Tim. 2:11-12.
     
  20. Cutter

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    Wait a minute, TCGreek. You ask for scripture disqualifying women from doing these things in church, when I respond none, then you ask me for scripture that condones these activities in church. Doesn't it stand to reason that if they are not prohibited from engaging in singing and praying in church they are therefore allowed to?
     
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