Women's authority over men?

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  1. ajg1959

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    1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

    1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

    Tts 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

    1Ti 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.


    I am curious here......many on here support Hillary for president, but dont think a woman should be a pastor. many on here say that the man is the head of the household, but would elect a woman to run our entire country...???????

    Which is it? If a woman should not run your household or church, is it ok for her to run a whole country?

    I believe the scriptures, and think that Hillary should take care of her family, and not mine.

    I am not putting down a woman's role in life.....my wife is a true blessing and she loves rasing our son and taking care of the home. It is a very important job, and even if I could do it at all, I am sure that I couldnt do it as weel as she does.

    Still.....should we submit ourselves to the authority of a woman as president?

    AJ
     
  2. ccrobinson

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    Does the Bible speak about women having positions of authority in a secular government, or does it speak only about women in positions of authority in the church?
     
  3. preachinjesus

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    This would have been my exact point, though said better than I could. We can't force an ecclesiological distinction into secular realms.

    Don't forget other examples of women in leadership of government. I would willingly except a woman in governmental leadership. :)
     
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    Yes...the judge of Israel, Deborah.
     
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    Does not the word "usurp" means to take by force? If a woman wins the presidency because she was voted in, is it wrong? Personally, I think some of Paul's teachings are a bit outdated and old-fashioned. Women actually are allowed to vote and work outside the home--even own a business and be the boss over men. Is it right? I have no idea, but I don't think a woman could do any worse as a president than what we've had lately. I've had male and female supervisors and liked very few of them.
     
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    Paul is referring to the church. We're not voting for Hillary as pastor.


    (I'll let you make your own joke there).


    So.....no, I see no problem theologically with a woman president.
     
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    Hillary could not control Bill when she was in office before? Do we really think he will be on a leash if he is there again?
     
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    Plus, where does it end? Can women own companies? Take leadership positions such as CEO or be on the board of directors?

    On the flip side, can women lead a church congregation in prayer? Direct men in a choir?
     
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    The bible is outdated and old fashioned?
     
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    I'm not voting for Hillary, but if the country elects her, I'll have no problem showing respect for her as the elected president, either.

    I will have a real, big problem if she's not President Hillary Clinton, but Pastor Hillary Clinton.

    (But, I think I like Condi :smilewinkgrin: ....and how about the current Ambassadress to the Philippines, she's doing a good job, too, from what I hear....come to think of it, the call center manager at the call center I worked in was great, she kept our call center on top dog position nationwide for a long time...)
     
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    i don't have a problem with Hilary being in the white house...but that is not to say that she has my vote.
     
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    Where Paul was writing, he was living in a different society, and his words reflect the social mores of his time. I have no problem with a woman President, pastor, boss, CEO, teacher, song leader, or any other job. Separate but equal isn't equal in race OR gender!
     
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    Be mothers? wives?

    lol, jk
     
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    Find something in the refrigerator that her husband has been staring at for 5 minutes but can't see it?

    We are multi-talented! :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    :thumbs: :laugh: :laugh:
     
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    Language Cop says he would very happily and willingly "except" Sen. Hillary Clinton in governmental leadership! :thumbs:

    And should she get the Presidential nomination of the Democrats, [​IMG]

    he will very likely vote to do that very thing, by voting for another. [​IMG]

    'Cause it seems like he ain't too thrilled over the prospects of having to "accept" her! :(

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    Great line!

    Unfortunately however, sadly, the gent may do got a point! :tear:

    Ed
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  18. The Scribe

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    Exactly

    Outdated? UM, no.

    Just because the government says something is right doesn't make it right for a Christian.
     
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    readmore,

    Yes.

    Yes

    Yes

    Yes.


    And I'll add..

    Yes.

    Yes.

    Yes.

    The scriptural testimony we have allows all of those.

    Having said all of that, I wouldnt vote for Hillary Clinton under any circumstances, but it would have nothing to do with her being a woman.

    God bless,

    Mike
     
  20. readmore

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    I agree with all up to the point of being a Pastor. Can you be more specific about the scriptural testimony that allows for this?
     

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