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Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Ps104_33, Feb 11, 2004.
Can a man/woman be saved by works?
Troll alert! Troll alert!
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oops, maybe that was a little premature and PS104 really is trying to learn something ... nah
Not trolling here. Just "trying to understand" (hey where has he been anyway. I miss him.) the difference between those who are working for their salvation and those who are not. Is their any sincere individual on God's earth of any religion who can be saved by their works?
If you refer to the works of the law, Absolutely not.
You are totally trolling
Who do you think is gonna come along and say, "Ummm, duh, deeder duh, me own wirks will save me, double-dutch-duh."?
Apart from the atoning sacrafice of Jesus Christ, no one is getting no where in a big hurry.
I guess you could say though that we have all been redeemed by "a work" that is- the life and ministry of Jesus Christ culminated in his death, burial, resurrection, and ascension!
Ok now we have the "works of the law".
Are there any other types of works that a person of any religion in the world can believe to be salvific.
Who today might be trying to enter heaven , nirvana or whatever by "works of the law" or any other type of work?
I guess what I am trying to find out is if Catholics arent working to be saved and Baptists arent working to be saved. Who is?
(BTW Harley, most of your posts, if not all, usually dont get any more than 4 or 5 responses so it seems no one is interested in anything you have to say anyway. So take your rosary and go home.)
You have a good question.
From what I understand it is the Buddhist belief that through the eightfold path by understanding the four noble truths one will eventually make it to the Buddhist version of heaven. There doesn't seem to be any text on any kind of "saving faith" in Buddhism, but is entirely up to the induviduals ability to deny themselves and work there way up a spiritual "chain".
I'm saved because I'm a really good person. I'm still working my way up to heaven, and I hope that one day I will attain heaven because I've been a good little boy. Oh gee, I hope I'm good enough for God!
P.S. Harley isn't Catholic.
I think he is
When you drain the barrel, there are only two religions in this world. Works and grace. Either one is working his way to heaven or you are trusting wholly in the blood shed on the cross by Christ.
If you were to make two columns or lists of world religions and in column one list the ones whose system consists of salvation by works and in the other those whose system consists of trusting in Christ for their salvation, what would the two lists look like?
And carson, I am glad that you have been a good little catholic today. Were you an altar boy when you were a kid too? Keep up the good works.
ScrewTape thinks its funny too.
Hello Psalms --
You oughta be real glad you left PA for Florida. It has been colder than a brass witch's heart here. Just miserable. I can't wait for some warm weather.
I think your question has merit. After all, it is the one thing which is constantly thrown at us Catholics.
"O Them Catholics, they think they can work their way to heaven."
I think there are some Bible verses we could discuss relative to this to begin. Let me post them up.
Ro 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Rather than me go into a long winded dissertation here, let me ask you what you see this section saying.
And also comment on this:
Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Okay. I'll wait to hear from you and then hopefully we can get into a good and profitable discussion.
And ignore the ignorant jerks here who don't know any better than to answer a question with an insult.
Cordially in Christ,
Now that is a shame.
I think he makes a good one.
This is sad
I am not accusing Roman catholics of working their way to heaven. If you all tell me you aint then I'll accept that. All I,m asking is who is?
Jews? Bhuddists? Methodists?
Okay, for some reason no one is taking you seriously - that you are asking a sincere question. I've given my input on the Buddhist faith. Where you going to comment on that?
He won't. This is an obvious troll post. He (and Bob) are only in this thread to get in what they think are some really clever insults.
Now that is a shame.
I think he makes a good one.
Bob </font>[/QUOTE]I can't be too good, Bob. I don't know nearly as much about the RCC as you! lol