World War 3 - An Orchestrated Evil? (Conspiracy Theory).

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  1. Ceegen

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    In 1925, a book titled The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled was written by Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile.

    In his book, he claims to have read a letter that was sent from Albert Pike to Guissepe Mazzini which was dated August 15, 1871. No evidence suggests that this letter ever existed, or that the two men had any connection to each other. However, both Pike and Mazzini did have a connection: They were both Freemasons. By their connection they were sworn to secrecy about their dealings, under the oaths they take as such who are affiliated with Freemasonry. So it would be impossible to prove that they had a connection other than they were in the same "fraternal organization".

    But what about the letter that supposedly didn't exist? First off, the letter would have been written before the events detailed in that letter, ever happened. What events, specifically, were talked about in the letter? Let's cover the first part:

    Some would argue that "Communism" wasn't even a blip on the radar screen at the time the letter was supposedly written, but this is simply not true. The Communist Manifesto was published in 1848, a full 23 years before the supposed letter was written. Also, Marx and Engels refined their version of Communism from earlier ideas.

    But aside from that, the book that Cardinal Caro wrote was first published in 1925, a full 7 years after WWI. So even if the letter never existed, this could be argued as something the Cardinal just made up. But, what he couldn't make up, were the next two world wars that are detailed in this mysterious letter that supposedly never existed. So let's look at WWII:

    Now, once again we have the problem of terms being used in the letter that were supposedly not used in the time it was said to have been written. Again, this isn't true. "Zionism", "Fascism", and "Nazism" were all terms that had origins in earlier periods of time.

    "Nazi" is the short-hand form of "National Socialist" from the German pronunciation, however "National Socialism" was an idea well before Hitler's time. After Darwin's theories on evolution were published and translated to German, some "great thinkers" got the idea that the social structure of humans in relation to government, was also evolving much like species evolve. However in error their ideas were, the idea of "Social Darwinism" was born, and was later promoted under the more appropriate title of "National Socialism" - Nazism. In fact, the term "Nazi" was used to describe a "backwards pesant" in Bavaria, Germany, to slander these "National Socialists".

    "Fascism", which derives from the Latin word fascis, (Latin "fasces", ax-like bundles of wood used by the lictores [people preceding important personalities] to drive away the masses). The word itself was used in direct corrolation to the word "Dictator" - Another Roman title of ancient times, dictator was a constitutional position which was to be used temporarily in times of war or other national calamity. It was simply the Italian application of Social Darwinism. It wasn't a new idea by any means when considering the history of the Roman Empire, but Mussolini made it famous.

    "Zionism", also had roots in, but did not originate in, Bavaria, Germany. I don't think I need to go into every detail of this particular, as it is well documented.

    Coincidence? Even though it seems to be coincidental, this does not account for the near-prophetic details of WWII in the letter, which was supposedly written in 1871, or even the book by the Cardinal that was published in 1925 -- A full 14 years before WWII.

    And what of WWIII? What does the letter say about it?

    A look at current events points to the stunning realization that it may happen, just as a letter that is supposed to never have existed foretold. It is a blueprint for evil, that is building up a system for the worship of an ancient cherub, to deceive the whole world. Otherwise, what would be the point of a one-world government, with a one-world currency, and one-world religion? Because if you don't take the "oath" ("mark" of the beast) to serve Lucifer, then you can't buy or sell, right?

    Time will tell.
     
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    Said it before, I'll say it again.

    You really need to stop reading alternative history books.
     
  3. Ceegen

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    Do you have any refutation of the information I presented, or just veiled insults?
     
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    http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/pike_mazzini.html

    Yet another fabrication—often repeated by anti-masons and conspiracy theorists—is the claim that Albert Pike was in correspondence with Giusseppe Mazzini. First claimed by Edith Starr Miller, the accusation was later repeated by William Guy Carr, who cited Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, author of The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled. In Pawns in the Game Carr claims that this correspondence was on display in the British Museum but didn't provide the source of his information. Later, in Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote:
    "The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925".
    In fact, the accusation—although not the specifics— can be traced to the earlier writings of the self-confessed hoaxsters Domenico Margiotta and Leo Taxil. There is no evidence that any correspondence ever existed. The British Museum has recently confirmed in writing to researcher Michael Haupt that such a document has never been in their possession. 1

    http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Articles/Pike-Mazzini_Three-World-Wars.htm

    To long to quote.
     
  5. Ceegen

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    I wouldn't trust a Freemason source about a refutation of a Freemason conspiracy.

    I read it, but the author of that page assumes much, and echoes the Freemason web page in too similar of ways. I would be surprised if that wasn't his source in the first place.

    Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez did not copy his source from the Leo Taxil "hoax" (more on that...). He said he coppied it directly from the source at the British Museum Library. William Guy Carr coppied what he read in Caro's book The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled, because he couldn't find the letter when he went to go view the letter himself. That's why the footnote in Carr's book stated that, "The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925." - Satan, Prince of This World, 1959, page 22. Pawns in the Game, 1958 did not contain that footnote, and the book Carr published in 1959 is basically just a re-print, to clear up any confusion about it.

    So what about this... "Hoax"?

    Leo Taxil, whose real name is Gabriel Jogand, wrote many anti-religious, political, and pornographic pamphlets and magazines. None of these really took aim at any fellow "brother" Mason, unless it was to misdirect attention away from what he was really doing. Most of his publications were directed at the Roman Catholic Church, which prompted the clergy to put pressure on his parent lodge in France to get him to stop.

    In any event, many Freemason sources deny that Leo Taxil was ever a Mason. when that fails to hold (because he was), they assert that the lodge he belonged to, "The Temple of Friends of French Honor" from the Grand Orient of France, wasn't really associated with the rest of the Freemason world. (They do the same thing when Alister Crowley is brought up, too). This is simply not true since many formal correspondence between lodges, and within lodges, still exist.

    In a "hearing" of the Grand Orient of France on Leo Taxil (because of the fuss raised by the RCC), this transpired in the questioning:

    [- Source: http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masons/Misc/Bulls/l-taxil.txt -]

    Three things stand out:
    1. Effectively, the "hearing" was a joke.
    2. It is pretty clear that Freemasons were (and still are) actively working against any and all Christians, RCC or not.
    3. If the lodge that Leo Taxil was a member of, was not a "recognized" lodge, then why did the Grand Orient of France hold a hearing concerning one of its members?

    Simply put, they're liars. This is disinformation to try and downplay the validity of the now non-existent Pike letter. At the very least, Leo Taxil was aware of the letter, and used part of it in his writings to later come out and say it was a hoax to simply cause confusion over the matter. The information that Leo Taxil included in his "hoaxes" has some validity to it, simply to have plausible deniability.

    So what happened to the letter that Pike supposedly sent to Mazzini? I'm not sure, but it wouldn't be the first time, nor will it be the last time, that information or people relating to the conspiratorial nature of Freemasonry simply... Disappear. Go look up the case of William Morgan, (known as "the Morgan affair" - 1826), which was very well documented.
     
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    I don't understand all the hostility toward Freemasonry. Freemasons don't harm anyone, and do a lot of charitable good.

    Cheers,

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    I wouldn't call it "hostility". I'm not out asking people to lop off their heads. These people are the most deceived of all, and need every prayer you can muster to wake them up and turn them back towards God. It's not all Freemasons, just the ones that are actively working towards a specific goal. And it doesn't matter if they seem to be "good" people, it is part of their cover. The Mafia was once thought to not exist, and even when they were found out they did many "good" things for people in the communities simply to keep people quiet.

    In 2nd Corinthians chapter 11 we have two subjects being talked about. First, Paul tells us that you should be wary of new doctrines of those who appear to say they come in the name of Jesus or whatever spirit it is that guides them. Secondly, it is of the good works that Paul did, and how he uses those things to prove the message he speaks.

    2 Corinthians 11:
    "13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
    14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

    You're not allowed to talk about Jesus in a Masonic "temple"! It doesn't matter how "good" they appear to be, they deny Jesus. At the higher levels, they are taught that Lucifer is god! Can you even imagine that?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BMgX1E5ij4
    (2 minute video of a Shriner/Mason admitting that he is Lucifer).

    But... Did you know that Freemasons stem from the stonemason guilds of England?

    "And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?" - Luke 20:17.

    You'd think he was talking about a specific group of people there? I think so, because coincidences seem less and less likely the more I find out about this stuff.
     
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    Ceegen - You usually use quotations from Catholic officials to bad-mouth organizations of mostly Protestants?
     
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    St. John's Masonic Lodge of Toronto held an annual church meeting in an evangelical church. You say Masons are not allow to mention Jesus in the Masonic Lodge!!! You haven't a clue what you are talking about.

    Cheers,

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    I do? Doesn't matter where it comes from if it's true. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater simply because it is coming from a Catholic source. Yeah, disregard the other junk in their conclusion of events, but take the facts of the matter for what they are.

    I'm no fan of the RCC, really. I don't hate any Catholic (or anyone, really) as a person, but their doctrine is what concerns me most. The "doctrine" of Freemasonry also concerns me greatly.

    Oh and Freemasonry has nothing to do with Protestantism. I don't see how you could make that connection when it isn't there, but if I misunderstood your question...
     
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    Now, I will never tell anyone what to do, but you may want to consider reading what many former Masons say about their "fraternal organization" which they came away from.

    Ex-Masons For Jesus:
    http://www.emfj.org/

    Former high-level Mason, Jim Shaw's testimony:
    http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/33rd_Initiation.htm
    (As a back-drop to where the story starts out at, Jim Shaw had an eye infection, and his doctor was reading the bible to him. He moved to Florida shortly after this to take a job at the behest of a fellow Mason. His father was a Mason, and because of this is why he first became one.)

    And more, but I'm sure you can find those on your own.

    Despite what some would have us believe, Freemasonry is not compatible with Jesus. It requires oaths of allegiance to be sworn, and operates in secrecy. What is the goal of Freemasonry, and why does it need to be a secret? If it were of God, there would be no need for secrets and oaths.
     
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    Are not the Masons mostly protestant by default? Not Atheists, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Hindus . . . .

    Went to a Masonic funeral once. They made generic references to God.
     
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    In any case, unless Jesus returns, WW3 is a done deal. It is a matter of human nature AKA sin.
     
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    By default, most Masons pretend to be whatever it is they need to be. They're world-wide, and take anyone of any faith or no faith at all.

    Some Masons are avowed Satanists, like Alister Crowley. No Christian should share a "brotherhood" with people of other faiths. Yeah, you can be friends, but what need do you have of belonging to an organization which holds Satanism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, or any religion, all on the same level as Christianity? That's crazy.

    When a Mason references "god", they are not speaking of the same God of the bible.

    It's sad that Masons (specifically, Christians who are Masons) are required to read junk like Morals and Dogma and either don't, or do and completely ignore the blatent evil in it.

    "The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but the negation of God. The Devil is the personification of Atheism or Idolatry. For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of Liberty or Free Will. They represent this Force, which presides over the physical generation, under the mythologic and horned form of the God PAN; thence came the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpent, and the Light-bearer or Phosphor, of which the poets have made the false Lucifer of the legend."

    They believe that Lucifer freed Adam and Eve from the "prison" of Eden from an unjust, cruel and vindictive God. By giving man intellect, we shall ourselves become gods. How is this not Satanism? Especially when you consider all Masonic connections to Theosophy, Gnosticism and the like; making God out to simply be just a "force", like gravity, to be manipulated? It's the same evil under a different name!

    "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;" - 1 Timothy 4:1.

    There is a video, (which is rather long - 2h 18m), but talks about the subject of Freemasonry and its connection to Theosophy, from a Christian perspective. It is very informative and well-documented. I would recommend it to anyone:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptjUhuv90vs
    "Aquarius - The Age of Evil"

    The video is free to copy and distribute under a free use clause.
     

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