You know who I am talking about ... those card-carrying members of the "if you are not a Calvinist - you are not spiritual" club. They showed up at our worship environment yesterday with their "Reformation" Bible and "hello my name is Bob -- where do you stand on the sovereignty of God" spirit. I was very nice to them and informed them quickly that we tend to focus on actually telling people about Christ and trying to help the average Joe & Jane in our crowd to understand what it means to live the everyday Christian life in 2005. These guys drive me nuts some times. I love them in Christ and I can usually aritculate their position better than they can but sometimes I sure wish they would move to some island where they could sit around and defend their human system and not worry about the multitudes of unbelievers around them. It would sure make life easier for us "shallow" guys that just want to see people transformed into passionate followers of Jesus Christ. I am glad I turned in my card a few years ago and starting focusing on real people with real needs who need a real witness about a real faith. Sorry for the outburst. I am climbing off my soapbox now.