Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

[Jon-Marc]

We already know how life began--God created it. If scientists want to know the answers to their questions, all they need do is look in God's word. Not too long ago, doctors were "bleeding" people thinking it would make them well. Yet it says that the blood is the life of the body in Leviticus 17.

 

[Jedi Knight]

John 1 is talking about Jesus, not Adam.

John 1 was talking about the CREATOR....THE WORD....JESUS! All the same and John was talking about Genesis"In the Beginning".

 

[Crabtownboy]

John 1 was talking about the CREATOR....THE WORD....JESUS! All the same and John was talking about Genesis.

No agument there. But we were discussing Gen. 1 and Gen. 2.

 

[Jedi Knight]

No agument there. But we were discussing Gen. 1 and Gen. 2.

And was not the CREATOR around Gen. 1-2 also? I never brought up Adam in my discussion. I know the "Scientist" are looking what kicked started this World...Universe and are blind guides. Do get me wrong,I love science,dinos,planets.....just need the proper lens to see it through.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Chapter 1 is creation in a nutshell. Chapter 2 is more detail regarding the unique creature which God created in his image and the developement of relationship between him and man. Chapter 1 tells the order of creation including the plants, and animals. On the 6th day the land animals and man was made. Chapter 2 goes into detail so that we can understand that God prepared the garden special for man. Just like man..... every thing, plant and beast, was mature ready to obey the command to be fruitful and multiply. God even provided the hydroponics for the garden and clean flowing waters for man and the animals. Have you read those first two chapters recently?

I guess we will see it differntly.

I say it is two creation stories. If it is one continuious story I do not believe the author[s would have changed the order. I have been told that Hebrew language scholars say that the words used in the two stories are different enough that it was two authors. I am not an expert in Hebrew. In fact I know very little about the Herbrew language.

This, I think, is an interesting topic. I will do some research into this and see what I can find.

 

[Jedi Knight]

I guess we will see it differntly.

I say it is two creation stories. If it is one continuious story I do not believe the author[s would have changed the order. I have been told that Hebrew language scholars say that the words used in the two stories are different enough that it was two authors. I am not an expert in Hebrew. In fact I know very little about the Herbrew language.

This, I think, is an interesting topic. I will do some research into this and see what I can find.

If there is TWO DIFFERENT creation stories.....what about we ALL died in ADAM? Just as we have to be saved through ONE perfect ADAM......Jesus! I agree with Windcatcher on this.

 

[gb93433]

Scripture is clear and literal on the how and why God created.

I find nothing in the Bible that explains how God created. That is not necessary for me to know. He never explained to me how He created from nothing. He just created from nothing. He stated the fact but never told anyone how. If He told how, I am sure I would not comprehend that even though my wife and I have a science background.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

I say it is two creation stories. If it is one continuious story I do not believe the author[s would have changed the order.

I agree. The best scholarship indicates that rather than the Pentateuch being written by a single author, it is an amalgam of different writings cobbled together into a single account.

 

[Jedi Knight]

I agree. The best scholarship indicates that rather than the Pentateuch being written by a single author, it is an amalgam of different writings cobbled together into a single account.

Windcatcher explained it right.....go back and see what was explained.

 

[Jedi Knight]

I find nothing in the Bible that explains how God created. That is not necessary for me to know. He never explained to me how He created from nothing. He just created from nothing. He stated the fact but never told anyone how. If He told how, I am sure I would not comprehend that even though my wife and I have a science background.

Really? AND GOD SAID! Hello! Spoke it into being.

 

[Revmitchell]

I find nothing in the Bible that explains how God created. That is not necessary for me to know. He never explained to me how He created from nothing. He just created from nothing. He stated the fact but never told anyone how. If He told how, I am sure I would not comprehend that even though my wife and I have a science background.

Genesis is very detailed

 

[tinytim]

I guess we will see it differntly.

I say it is two creation stories. If it is one continuious story I do not believe the author[s would have changed the order. I have been told that Hebrew language scholars say that the words used in the two stories are different enough that it was two authors. I am not an expert in Hebrew. In fact I know very little about the Herbrew language.

This, I think, is an interesting topic. I will do some research into this and see what I can find.

I see 2 stories as well, but they don't contradict, they complement each other. (Or is it compliment?)...

In my opinion.. and feel free to disagree, because it is only opinion...

I feel Gen. 1 is an oral account passed down from Adam to Moses.. Maybe even a poem, song, etc.

I feel, it is not necessary how God created life.. or how the elements responded when God spoke, what is important is that God did it... it wasn't chance that combined the sugars, proteins, amino acids etc.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I see 2 stories as well, but they don't contradict, they complement each other. (Or is it compliment?)...

In my opinion.. and feel free to disagree, because it is only opinion...

I feel Gen. 1 is an oral account passed down from Adam to Moses.. Maybe even a poem, song, etc.

I have great respect for oral tradition and it was very strong in those days. We have examples of how it carries stories or information for centuries, i.e. Alex Haley and his discovery of his African ancestor when a tribal oral historian gave him the history of the tribe.

I feel, it is not necessary how God created life.. or how the elements responded when God spoke, what is important is that God did it... it wasn't chance that combined the sugars, proteins, amino acids etc.

It may not be necesary, but as God made man a curious being we will continue to try to understand. I believe that D. Bonehoeffer was correct when he spoke of the God of the gaps. That is as science discovers how God accomplished various things we gain a more accurate picture of God. Thus the gaps of ignorance are filled in with accurate pictures of God.

We have nothing to fear from science. We may have to adjust our thinking on how something happened, but that does not negate God in the least. To me a person who rejects a discovery because it forces them to adjust their thinking is showing a lack of faith in God. That is their faith in God is so shallow that God, to them, must conform to their human understanding. I do not say this as a criticism of anyone. We all change or modify our beliefs as we grow older, or at least we should as we discover more and more about God. As they say a stone cannot be polished without the rough edges being taken off and rough surfaces being ground away.

To me whatever science finds simply means that is how God did something. While I find how God created or accomplished some act quite interesting the really important fact is that God DID it.

 

[Revmitchell]

The Bible should never be understood by ever changing man made science. Science should always be understood in the light of God's eternal and never changing word.

 

[Jedi Knight]

The Bible should never be understood by ever changing man made science. Science should always be understood in the light of God's eternal and never changing word.

AMEN!:smilewinkgrin:

 

[OldRegular]

Science attempts to tell how God created and Scripture tells why God created.

Scripture also tells how GOD created: HE spoke!:godisgood:

Genesis 1 tells more of the How than the Why.

 

[OldRegular]

It may not be necesary, but as God made man a curious being we will continue to try to understand.

Did God make man curious or did the fall make man curious?

I believe that D. Bonehoeffer was correct when he spoke of the God of the gaps. That is as science discovers how God accomplished various things we gain a more accurate picture of God. Thus the gaps of ignorance are filled in with accurate pictures of God.

Just what has science learned about HOW GOD accomplished various things.?

We have nothing to fear from science.

We have nothing to fear from true science. What most people call science today is the mindless meanderings of atheists who are determined to prove that their religion is truth.

We may have to adjust our thinking on how something happened, but that does not negate God in the least.

Actually mans thinking has nothing to do with the existence of the GOD of the Bible. GOD is not the invention of man; man is the creation of GOD!

Modern man is not markedly different from ancient man, though his gods may be. He is certainly more elegant in defining his theology or lack therof. Science and technology are popular modern gods. Evolution, a pseudo science, is also a popular god of the day though in reality many pagan religions espoused some primitive form of evolution. Humanism, the idea that man is sufficient unto himself and therefore claiming to be atheistic, is another currently popular god, very closely related to the gods of evolution, science, and technology. Environmentalism, a modern form of pantheism, is the god of many and appears to be rapidly gaining new adherents. Some, thinking themselves more learned or sophisticated, fall back to the position of agnosticism or ‘know nothing’. Strangely some of those who perceive themselves to be most learned and sophisticated have aligned themselves with the most unlearned and embraced the god of atheism. Yet modern man with all the advances that have been made in science, in medicine, in the quality of life, is still faced with the same dilemma that man has faced throughout time, the inevitability of death and the unknown that lies beyond.

There is one answer to that dilemma, that unknown, and it is found only in the Special Revelation of GOD, the Bible.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Did God make man curious or did the fall make man curious?

Oh, I believe God created mankind as curious beings.

Just what has science learned about HOW GOD accomplished various things.?

Depends on how you view scientific discoveries. I vew them as showing how God created an interdependent ecosystem of which mankind is a part.

We have nothing to fear from true science. What most people call science today is the mindless meanderings of atheists who are determined to prove that their religion is truth.

That is a matter of opinion. I have known quite a number of Christian scientists, engineers and other technical types. I am not sure what you mean by pseudoscience. Do you mean science that does not agree with your view of the Bible? Or something else?

Actually mans thinking has nothing to do with the existence of the GOD of the Bible. GOD is not the invention of man; man is the creation of GOD!

I don't believe anyone has suggested that mans thinking makes God exist.

Modern man is not markedly different from ancient man, though his gods may be. He is certainly more elegant in defining his theology or lack therof. Science and technology are popular modern gods. Evolution, a pseudo science, is also a popular god of the day though in reality many pagan religions espoused some primitive form of evolution. Humanism, the idea that man is sufficient unto himself and therefore claiming to be atheistic, is another currently popular god, very closely related to the gods of evolution, science, and technology. Environmentalism, a modern form of pantheism, is the god of many and appears to be rapidly gaining new adherents. Some, thinking themselves more learned or sophisticated, fall back to the position of agnosticism or ‘know nothing’. Strangely some of those who perceive themselves to be most learned and sophisticated have aligned themselves with the most unlearned and embraced the god of atheism. Yet modern man with all the advances that have been made in science, in medicine, in the quality of life, is still faced with the same dilemma that man has faced throughout time, the inevitability of death and the unknown that lies beyond.

Man has not changed much, but mans knowledge has changed a lot ... of course we have forgotten much also.



There is one answer to that dilemma, that unknown, and it is found only in the Special Revelation of GOD, the Bible.[/QUOTE]

The problem is not the Bible, but mans interpretation of the Bible.

 

[Jedi Knight]

Evolution was created to kill the God of the bible BECAUSE they don't want Him to be Judge!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Evolution was created to kill the God of the bible BECAUSE they don't want Him to be Judge!

There is no conflict between evolution and the Bible ... but there is confusion in the minds of many over this topic. The order of creation in Gen. 1 is basically from the simple to the comples ... same as evolution.

Now where we all get in trouble is trying to learn spiritual lessons from evolution or scientific lessions from the Bible.

There are good lessons of a very practical nature in the Bible. For instance there is good financial advice in the Bible ... hmmm, might be an interesting thread.