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North Korea situation getting ugly...

rbell

Active Member
Wow...

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-39913120090527

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090527/D98EKAHG0.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=awBTCPe7S2gw&refer=worldwide

This is getting serious, fast...


North Korea warned Wednesday that any attempt to stop, board or inspect its ships would constitute a "grave violation."
The regime also said it could no longer promise the safety of U.S. and South Korean warships and civilian vessels in the waters near the Korea's western maritime border. "They should bear in mind that the (North) has tremendous military muscle and its own method of strike able to conquer any targets in its vicinity at one stroke or hit the U.S. on the raw, if necessary," it said.

Pyongyang, reacting angrily to Seoul's decision to join an international program to intercept ships suspected of aiding nuclear proliferation, called the move tantamount to a declaration of war.

This is Obama's first major foreign crisis test.

Let's hope, for all our sakes, he passes this one.

Otherwise, we have a huge problem.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
The big problem is that North Korea has the conventional fire power to devastate Seoul at a moment's notice.
 

Magnetic Poles

New Member
The big problem is that North Korea has the conventional fire power to devastate Seoul at a moment's notice.
Yep, and I am not sure that they would think twice, even though it would mean the utter obliteration of the cesspool they have made of their nation, from the face of the earth.
 

Crabtownboy

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The big problem is that North Korea has the conventional fire power to devastate Seoul at a moment's notice.

True statement. And, uncless they change their policy drastically N. Korea has China and Russia in their corner. Both have condemned N. Korea's recent activity, but that is words. We'll see if they back their words with actions.

For instance, China has been letting N. Koreas transports land and refule at Chinese airfield in their flights to and from Iraq and other Mid-Eastern countries.

If China cuts that off it will be meaningful.
 

Palatka51

New Member
The big problem is that North Korea has the conventional fire power to devastate Seoul at a moment's notice.

Conventional? they just tested a nuclear device that registered a 4.0 quake.

From linked article;
North Korea today risked further international isolation after it claimed to have successfully tested a nuclear weapon as powerful as the atomic bomb that destroyed Hiroshima.

The underground atomic explosion, at 9.54am local time (0154 BST), created an earthquake measuring magnitude 4.5 in Kilju county in the country's north-east, reports said.
 
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SBCPreacher

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I'm no politician, but i think this is going to require ore than a "strongly worded" UN resolution. They apparently don't hear any strongly worded UN resolutions.
 

Olivencia

New Member
We should have took the North Koreans out a long time ago. Nothing will happen. We'll talk tough, impose new "stricter sanctions" while they just laugh, talk about how weak and stupid we are and then continue to test more missiles, bombs, nuclear devices, etc etc. On and on it goes.
 
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Olivencia

New Member
We should have taken them out as far back as MacArthur. This was before China had the nukes.
I know it was a long time ago and we have to deal with now but I think it is just a matter of time (not if but when) that North Korea is going to do something really awful.
 

Magnetic Poles

New Member
We should have taken them out as far back as MacArthur. This was before China had the nukes.
I know it was a long time ago and we have to deal with now but I think it is just a matter of time (not if but when) that North Korea is going to do something really awful.
Sadly, you may be right.
 

Bro. Curtis

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We should not be saber-rattling over N.K.. Why do we support the U.N. so much if they can't take care of this situation. Let the Europeans and the mideast deal with them. They are the ones who need to worry. We simply cannot afford to do anything, as we have two wars now, and are preparing for three more. We have probably killed a million of them with our sanctions.
 

Olivencia

New Member
We should not be saber-rattling over N.K..

--> They initiated it.


Why do we support the U.N. so much if they can't take care of this situation.

--> We shouldn't support the UN so much.

Let the Europeans and the mideast deal with them.

--> They won't.


They are the ones who need to worry.

--> Their missiles being soon capable of hitting Alaska and Hawaii and we shouldn't worry?

We simply cannot afford to do anything,

--> We can't afford not to do anything.

as we have two wars now, and are preparing for three more. We have probably killed a million of them with our sanctions.

--> The blame lies with them.
 

Jedi Knight

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I was in favor of the STAR WARS program!:thumbs: But seems after we thought his " Kim Jong-il's" health failed he wants to go out with a BANG!
 

Mexdeaf

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We should have taken them out as far back as MacArthur. This was before China had the nukes.
I know it was a long time ago and we have to deal with now but I think it is just a matter of time (not if but when) that North Korea is going to do something really awful.

I agree, but I sure hope we're both wrong on this one!!
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
Hey, Biden was right. Within 6 months of Obama taking office, we have a major international provacation.

North Korea has declared the peace treaty signed in the 50's to be null and void. That means, technically, we are already at war with North Korea as we speak.

They have a million man army and Soule S. Korea (capitol city) is within 15 miles of the DMZ.

What would Obama do if North Korea invaded?

I suspect he would withdraw our 50 thousand troops as quickly as possible.

peace to you:praying:
 

historyb

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North Korea loves nuke's so much, let's give them a few on the end of some ICBM's, see if they can catch em
 
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Bro. Curtis

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We should not be saber-rattling over N.K..

--> They initiated it.

Ndever said they didn't.


Why do we support the U.N. so much if they can't take care of this situation.

--> We shouldn't support the UN so much.

Agreed.

Let the Europeans and the mideast deal with them.

--> They won't.

Then they suffer, not us.


They are the ones who need to worry.

--> Their missiles being soon capable of hitting Alaska and Hawaii and we shouldn't worry?

Sigh. I thought we may have learned from the Iraq fiasco. It appears we haven't.

We simply cannot afford to do anything,

--> We can't afford not to do anything.

North Korea does not pose a threat to us. We don't have any money. We will need to draft our kids to fight.

as we have two wars now, and are preparing for three more. We have probably killed a million of them with our sanctions.

--> The blame lies with them.
That doesn't change anything.
 
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