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Where Have All the Christians Gone?

stilllearning

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A news story from the AP

The number of people who claim no religious affiliation, meanwhile, has doubled since 1990 to fifteen percent, its highest point in history.

Christianity is plummeting in America, while the number of non-believers is skyrocketing.

A shocking new study of Americans’ religious beliefs shows the beginnings of a major realignment in Americans’ relationship with God. The American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) reveals that Protestants now represent half of all Americans, down almost 20 percent in the last twenty years. In the coming months, America will become a minority Protestant nation for the first time since the pilgrims.

The number of people who claim no religious affiliation, meanwhile, has doubled since 1990 to fifteen percent, its highest point in history. Non-believers now represent the third-highest group of Americans, after Catholics and Baptists.

Other headlines:

1) The number of Christians has declined 12% since 1990, and is now 76%, the lowest percentage in American history.

2) The growth of non-believers has come largely from men. Twenty percent of men express no religious affiliation; 12% of women.

3) Young people are fleeing faith. Nearly a quarter of Americans in their 20’s profess no organized religion.

4) But these non-believers are not particularly atheist. That number hasn’t budged and stands at less than 1 percent. (Agnostics are similarly less than 1 percent.) Instead, these individuals have a belief in God but no interest in organized religion, or they believe in a personal God but not in a formal faith tradition.

The implications for American society are profound. Americans’ relationship with God, which drove many of the country’s great transformations from the pilgrims to the founding fathers, the Civil War to the civil rights movement, is still intact. Eighty-two percent of Americans believe in God or a higher power.

But at the same time, the study offers yet another wake-up call for religious institutions.

First, catering to older believers is a recipe for failure; younger Americans are tuning out.

Second, Americans are interested in God, but they don’t think existing institutions are helping them draw closer to God.

Finally, Americans’ interest in religion has not always been stable. It dipped following the Revolution and again following Civil War. In both cases it rebounded because religious institutions adapted and found new ways of relating to everyday Americans.

Today, the rise of disaffection is so powerful that different denominations needs to band together to find a shared language of God that can move beyond the fading divisions of the past and begin moving toward a partnership of different-but-equal traditions.

Or risk becoming Europe, where religion is fast becoming an afterthought.

Bruce Feiler is bestselling author of eight books, including "Walking the Bible" and "Abraham," and the host of the PBS series on "Walking the Bible." A frequent commentator on National Public Radio, CNN and FOX News. His latest book "America's Prophet: Moses and the American Story" will be published in October.
 

Carico

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A news story from the AP



Bruce Feiler is bestselling author of eight books, including "Walking the Bible" and "Abraham," and the host of the PBS series on "Walking the Bible." A frequent commentator on National Public Radio, CNN and FOX News. His latest book "America's Prophet: Moses and the American Story" will be published in October.

Jesus tells us in MT. 24;10, that the closer we get to the end, that many will grow away from the faith, the love of most will grow cold, and "Christians" will hate and betray each other. That's happening so fast it's alarming. All one has to do is look at the online arguing and bickering between Christians alone to see that love is almost absent in the church. Only the "elect", the true born again Christians will stand firm.
 

donnA

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between Christians

Only the "elect", the true born again Christians will stand firm
a christian is a christian, theres no part or almost or not quite a christa, a person is either a christian or they aren't. How are you seeing a difference between christians then, that some christians aren't christians and some are?
 

Twizzler

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a christian is a christian, theres no part or almost or not quite a christa, a person is either a christian or they aren't. How are you seeing a difference between christians then, that some christians aren't christians and some are?

His point about christian arguing with christian is spot on here, DonnA... we see it every day here on the BB. I'm convinced there are folk that are 'born again' that still have trouble supporting what is 'correct' in a biblical sense. The Holy Ghost may be whispering to their soul that they should believe in something but they are haughty and proud, leaning on their own understanding as we're seeing a LOT of folks these days doing.

As for your statement, 'a christian is a christian'... that's kind of a non-issue for this thread too in my opinion... what's more relevant to me is the fact that in the 'world' the majority of the public believes that if you confess an existence in the Lord you're "christian". So, in essence, there's the 'world's definition of 'christian'...' and then there's OUR definition of the word 'christian', which we take to mean born-again, accepting Jesus Christ as our personal savior.
 

Carico

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a christian is a christian, theres no part or almost or not quite a christa, a person is either a christian or they aren't. How are you seeing a difference between christians then, that some christians aren't christians and some are?

All wolves in sheep's clothing call themselves sheep. So scripture differentiates between the true elect and the wolves in sheep's clothing which are also the first 3 groups in the parable of the sower. Jesus also makes clear that his true sheep never follow a stranger. So his true sheep cannot fall away; only the false ones described in the first 3 groups in the parable of the sower.
 

webdog

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Jesus tells us in MT. 24;10, that the closer we get to the end, that many will grow away from the faith, the love of most will grow cold, and "Christians" will hate and betray each other. That's happening so fast it's alarming. All one has to do is look at the online arguing and bickering between Christians alone to see that love is almost absent in the church. Only the "elect", the true born again Christians will stand firm.
You really don't add to the "love fest" by condemning all non calvinists are lost. You should really look in the mirror...
 

donnA

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His point about christian arguing with christian is spot on here,
This is not what I was asking.
He is identifying two different groups of people as being christians.
 

menageriekeeper

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Lets look at what this article really says. Only half of Americans are PROTESTANT. Not Christian, but Protestant. (well, if you consider all Catholics to be heathen you won't count them as Christian either, but that is beside the point)

Consider the influx immigrants from our southern border. They are much more likely to consider themselves Catholic than Protestant.

Add to that, the growing acceptance in the country of peoples who don't identify with ANY religion, the growing numbers of Muslims and this is what you get.

NOW add in the fact that many of our so-called Protestant churches teach their followers to follow "rules" rather than the guidance of the Holy Spirit and you find the reason that the younger members of our society are falling away from "traditional" worship.

We reap what we sow. When we sow dicord, we reap falling numbers. In that I agree, we have lost sight of "by your love for one another shall ye be known".
 

Carico

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You really don't add to the "love fest" by condemning all non calvinists are lost. You should really look in the mirror...

Do you think that Jesus didn't love the Pharisees or sinners whom he said were lost?:confused: If so, you're wrong. Just because some people are lost doesn't not mean that they are not loved.
 

saturneptune

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All wolves in sheep's clothing call themselves sheep. So scripture differentiates between the true elect and the wolves in sheep's clothing which are also the first 3 groups in the parable of the sower. Jesus also makes clear that his true sheep never follow a stranger. So his true sheep cannot fall away; only the false ones described in the first 3 groups in the parable of the sower.
The problem with your statement is that you do not set the standard for the definition of what makes a "wolf in sheep's clothing." This is the job the the Lord and His Word. Your opinion of the Bible and Biblical truth are not synonyms. I have read many, many opinion papers about that parable, and while I think three are lost and one is saved (my opinion), there are a great many that think the seed that took root and was choked out by the weeds never fell away over time and worldly concerns were a temporary condition, sort of like you sinning every day, and, at the moment you do, you are in a sense "following a stranger." To me the evidence suggests this person is lost, but that does not make it Biblical truth.
 

saturneptune

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Do you think that Jesus didn't love the Pharisees or sinners whom he said were lost?:confused: If so, you're wrong. Just because some people are lost doesn't not mean that they are not loved.
While I agree with the doctrines of sovereignty and grace (despise the word Calvinism), the very fact you would even imply those that do not agree with us are lost, makes every post you create in the catagory of opinion, and makes no real attempt to discover Biblical truth. It is hard to take anything you type seriously. Why is it that people who equate their weak opinions with the foundation of the Bible always end up on the side of the position I take, and end up hurting the doctrine. You remind me of Rippon.
 
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