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Worker's 'God' pin sparks debate

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Jedi Knight, Oct 28, 2009.

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  1. Jedi Knight

    Jedi Knight Well-Known Member
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    Hmmmm, the first question is, does Home Depot have a policy that restricts such things to only company-provided pins and badges? If so, the second question is whether he was made aware of it during the hiring process.

    If the answer to both questions is "yes", it doesn't matter what the pin said. If he was told to remove it, and he refused, he rightly deserves to be fired. It doesn't matter if it's a "God" pin or a "Star Trek" pin (for all you officianados of "The West Wing").
     
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    That is the case according to the source linked by the OP...

    "This associate chose to wear a button that expressed his religious beliefs. The issue is not whether or not we agree with the message on the button," Craig Fishel said. "That's not our place to say, which is exactly why we have a blanket policy, which is long-standing and well-communicated to our associates, that only company-provided pins and badges can be worn on our aprons."
     
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    Wow, so "one nation, under God, indivisible" is an expression of one's personal religious belief? And here all this time I thought it was just part of the pledge of allegiance to the American flag.

    If memory serves me correctly, Home Depot wants us to spend money for Christmas decorations at their stores, but they use the term "holiday" instead of "Christmas" in their fliers and on their merchandise.
     
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    The company policy is that no personal pins are to be worn period. Why do we Christians make ourselves out to be victims? Clearly the guy was violating the rule and being a Christian doesn't give him the right to violate a policy that is equally discriminatory whether you are a Christian or not.
     
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    I agree he should have removed it when asked to, but why did they let him wear it for a year before they said something?
     
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    Did you bother to read it? It says they wanted to give Him a diffrent pin for His.
     
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    That's what the kid claims, in order to make a case for his being fired. But the fact is, he was fired for legitimate cause, and for some reason, doesn't think that the company policy shouldn't apply to him.
     
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    There are some company sactioned pins that he could have worn all along. Fact is, the guy broke the rules and now he's using his supposed Christianity as an excuse. Again, he's playing victim. I would imagine this guy has done more than wear a pin to work. I would imagine (and I could be wrong) that this was one of many violations of company policy.
     
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    I will vote with my feet and my money. I won't shop there.
     
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    So will I. The guy is morally in the wrong. Home Depot made the right decision. I will continue to shop there.
     
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    "I'm a victim! I'm a victim! I'm a victim!" Even Christians don't mind playing the victim card when they are clearly in the wrong.
     
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    They offerd to give a pin that said "United we stand"....sounds more like political correctness going on. Money that says in God we trust is the same "religious belief".......so why take the money??? This is the world now that 20 years ago this would not have been an issue. HAPPY HOLIDAYS anyone?
     
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    The store is a business that is attempting to serve it's customers, accomodate it's employees and make a profit - all at the same time.

    Why take the money? Because the money doesn't offend customers.

    What would be your response to this article if the same employee had done the same thing with the exception that the pin in question promoted satanism instead? Would still you be defending his right to a religious expression in the work place?
     
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    Or if it said something like:

    America and Allah - Both are great!

    I agree. If this store truly has this policy and it is equally enforced the guy has no complaint. None.

    This reminds me how soft the church has become. We have lost sight of what real persecution is.

    I strongly suspect that most of us are going to experience real abuse in our lifetimes. We need to get off the petty stuff.
     
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    Although I don't have anything against expressing one's faith, this employee would have been a better witness if he had obeyed his employer and removed the pin.

    I believe a person's faith is better served by their attitude and work ethic rather than a piece of jewelry that states their beliefs.

    Also, how Christian is it to immediately seek a lawsuit rather than allowing themselves to be defrauded, as the Scripture says a believer should do?
     
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    It is the employee's claim that he wore it for a year and a half before anything was said. And the timing of the opposition came when he began to bring his Bible to work to read during lunch.
     
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    Rev, somehow I think there's more to this story than him bringing his Bible to work.
     
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    Why the need to question his salvation?
     
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    I didn't know that I questioned his salvation. Rather, I am questioning his motives.
     
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