It's that time of year again . . .

I assume you own no pets, and that if you do they did not require training. And the "rug in front of the fireplace" is a red herring. It's what's left-over after you eat the meat. Why not put it to good use?

 

It's not my red herring, Benjamin mentioned it.

Don't really know what you are talking about concerning owning pets (speaking of red herring), but I have a dog, cat, lizard and frogs.

 

YES. :thumbsup:

 

YES.

Is Aaron God? NO.
Does Aaron think he knows others intentions? YES

Is Aaron going to be held accountable for playing God? YES.

 

Careful there, you're on the verge of (getting accused for) going off topic and jumping to conclusions!:laugh:

Excellent post, by the way. Some can't see that a judgemental attitude and putting down fellow believers is sin, yet they worry about putting down an animal. Amazing!

 

I don’t have to give you scripture specifically about recreation to know that if an individual wants to use his right of dominion (which we do have scripture on and is defined by ruling over and taking from the earth, to subdue and increase with) for recreational purposes that one shouldn’t be judging another’s morality concerning the matter of his rights if it is being done responsibly. That said, personally I wouldn’t do it only for recreation because of my thoughts about reponsibility, but neither would I judge another who does while considering such recreation a want or need, even if that need is for trophies and decoration.

As for the bearskin rug, you would be wise not to judge me for taking what is mine to take, should I choose to take it. You would do well to study these rights of man given by God in context rather than being conformed to the ideas/sentiments of this world. It even says a tree is given for meat; would you also judge a man if he were to cut down a living tree to make a chair to sit in when he could have sat on the ground??? What if he left the rest of the tree to rot does that make a difference? If not I’d caution you to be careful about putting your animal rights sentiments over and above treating your brother’s freedoms of dominion with love and respect before you continue in this judging others rights and morality on such matters as if they wanted a rug.

How about a picture frame compared to a mounted head for decoration? Show me in scripture where animals are more privileged than anything else we have dominion over.

Genesis 1:26-30
(26) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(27) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
(28) And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
(29) And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
(30) And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

 

Anyone one want to take me grizzly bear hunting sometime if I get a windfall to pay for it? :laugh:

 

Absolutely, positively not.

 

I have already quoted your own words. I have nothing to retract. Just so you can't say I have unjustly accused you of anything, I will post it again.

 

I would challenge all of our "Nay" sayers to read the book of Genesis beginning in chapter 25--Esau was "a cunning hunter, a man of the field"--I imagine he'd go to his version of Outdoor World to buy the latest in camo and decoys--he'd get his boots on and sign his yearly "All Game" license amd head for the woods and he'd like it and his daddy liked it

Who Esau was what God made him to be and what he did with his personality was not a sin-What Jacob did in falsely impersonating his brother was

Is hunting and fishing moral--sure is!

 

I wouldn't think Esau would be a good example for a believer to follow in anything...but to each their own.

 

...and where did I call anyone a liar (your accusation) there?

 

Like I thought...nothing.

 

Tim, nobody is playing God...and you here admit killing for the sheer enjoyment of fun is moral. I'm sure you can provide the Scripture Benjamin could not.

 

How is it judgmental? Is it putting down a fellow believer by stating they shouldn't pull legs off insects as well? I'm highly shocked at the "ho, hum" attitude so many on this thread are taking in regards to death and enjoyment in it. Shocking, actually

 

We should ask the question outright. Is there anyone here who thinks there's nothing wrong with pulling the legs off insects just for fun? I can't imagine any mature Christian would say yes to that.

 

What I don't recall seeing on this thread (and I'm not going to wade back through it to see if it's there because I don't have the time):

Scripture proving that hunting for sport is wrong.

 

Of course that is wrong... that would be on the same level as the illustration I used before... shooting a deer in a leg just to see it suffer....

A good hunter takes the best shot possible to kill the deer instantly, not torture it.

Just like I will swat a fly to kill it instantly, not catch it and torture it.