WOW! God has given you the ability to judge everyone's motives! I'm truly impressed.
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WOW! God has given you the ability to judge everyone's motives! I'm truly impressed.
ReformedBaptist
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LOL :laugh:
Oh master of hyperbole, I guess He has given you the same ability to state everyone's motives are pure! I'm impressed as well!
Actually, this is what you said in response to Aaron... "I find it very weird to think that hunters have some twisted sadistic motivation to kill animals. That idea reminds of how serial killers get their start....".
My comment was in reference to this viewpoint.
Besides taking offense at you using mental illness so haphazardly, the fact you use a bow and arrow refutes the notion you do not take pleasure in their suffering, as they ARE GOING TO suffer. You can't play the ignorant game here.
...so you do something knowing it's going to suffer. I rest my case.
red herring. Please follow along in the PURPOSE of this thread...that would help immensely.
ReformedBaptist
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Your response can only be characterized in my opinion as ignorance or blind motivation to try to prove unprovable points.
So...when mankind hunted without firearms because they didn't exist...hunting was wrong? An animal killed with a firearm suffers also btw. It is just that they normally die faster because a bullet tends to inflict a more fatal wound than an arrow.
Also, your argument and point fails in that whether a person harvests an animal with a bow or gun, does not mean they take pleasure in the suffering of the animal.
nor is my question about you eating meat a red herring. It is right on topic. An animal you eat must be killed. Whether it is done in mass on a farm, or one-on-one in the woods, if your a meat eater than you are participating in the entire process. If you eat meat, but condemn hunting them, then in my opinion that makes you a hypocrit. The animal slaughtered on a farm suffers from death like an animal hunted in the woods.
In fact, slaughterhouses are often more cruel in their methods than hunting.
The fact remains that your trying to prove that hunters take pleasure in the suffering of the game they seek to take which is absurd.
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I'll go with C. None of the above.
Plenty of bow hunting videos on the web. I have yet to see one where the animal was taken down inside of 40 yards. I have seen many kill shots with a rifle, however.
Try arguing what I actually say.
Did you even bother reading the OP? The purpose of this thread is not about hunting for food...when will you guys get that?!?
I don't have to prove it...it's available for the whole planet to see. It's called the internet. Are you going to tell me the person who is getting excited about a deer choking on their own blood is not taking pleasure in death which is a byproduct of sin?
ReformedBaptist
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My bad...I forgot that the internet is the infallible source of information on our planet. :tonofbricks:
Are you going to argue against visual proof now? LOL
ReformedBaptist
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No. I just thought it was hilarious. Cause the internet is serious bidness you know.
Your arguments fail. Your points fail. You haven't proven anything.
So, do you eat meat or not?
ReformedBaptist
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Jesus says yes. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. Acts 10:13
ReformedBaptist
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Here some edumacation for folks interested.
http://www.christianbook.com/look-l...9781565078642/pd/5078640?event=AFF&p=1011693&
Recommended by this site: http://www.gotquestions.org/hunting-Christian.html
I like their response. Better than I could do.
http://www.christianbook.com/look-l...9781565078642/pd/5078640?event=AFF&p=1011693&
Recommended by this site: http://www.gotquestions.org/hunting-Christian.html
I like their response. Better than I could do.
I see we are back to 3rd grade debate, "you're wrong", "my dad can beat up your dad", etc.
I do eat meat...so I take it you haven't read the OP?
ReformedBaptist
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Hey..at least something got ya quiet.
Found this quote: "Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat all day and drink beer with his friends."
LOL
And yes, my Dad could woop your daddy in a nano-second..
Just got back from deer camp and I have a confession to make. Monday morning I was 15 foot up a tree sitting on a big old cushion waiting for the deer to step out into the field. I could yammer on for 20 minutes about scouting and all that stuff but I would get off the point of this post....
I spotted an eight-pointer through my binoculars working his way around the open field checking his scrapes. He was magnificent! Rack had a nice spread with decent time length. He got broadside to me at 130 yards (verified with a rangefinder). I shoot a Stevens 200 bolt action in 7mm-08 topped with a Simmons 4-9x 50mm scope; 140 grain Federal Fusion ammo. I shot, through the neck, and he dropped in his tracks. Two hours later he was at the meat cutters getting prepared for pickup on Friday.
Here's the confession: I did enjoy the kill. Enjoyed it to beat the band. I've been scouting this deer since April. I knew his patterns better than he did. I got myself in the right place at the right time. I have spent years acquiring the right equipment (just ask madre). I work hard at my marksmanship and have ever since my Papa took me out to shoot cans with his JC Higgins bolt-action .22 forty something years ago.
There, I done gone and said it. I enjoyed the kill - every last bit of it from the early scouting 'til next summer when the backstraps hit the grill on the 4th of July. Not for nothing, 130 yards is a pretty decent shot if I say so myself. I took a doe Sunday afternoon at 150 but didn't want to say anything about that just in case someone got their knickers in a twist about hunting on Sunday.
Aaron, you were right. It is about the thrill of killing.
Man, I'm getting giddy just thinking about that shot. Personally I think the 150 yarder is more remarkable but it just lacked the pure adrenalin rush of seeing that buck standing broadside on a frosty morning.
PS: I did do a fist pump, say YES while doing it and then called my buddy on the radio to yell YEEHAW!
I spotted an eight-pointer through my binoculars working his way around the open field checking his scrapes. He was magnificent! Rack had a nice spread with decent time length. He got broadside to me at 130 yards (verified with a rangefinder). I shoot a Stevens 200 bolt action in 7mm-08 topped with a Simmons 4-9x 50mm scope; 140 grain Federal Fusion ammo. I shot, through the neck, and he dropped in his tracks. Two hours later he was at the meat cutters getting prepared for pickup on Friday.
Here's the confession: I did enjoy the kill. Enjoyed it to beat the band. I've been scouting this deer since April. I knew his patterns better than he did. I got myself in the right place at the right time. I have spent years acquiring the right equipment (just ask madre). I work hard at my marksmanship and have ever since my Papa took me out to shoot cans with his JC Higgins bolt-action .22 forty something years ago.
There, I done gone and said it. I enjoyed the kill - every last bit of it from the early scouting 'til next summer when the backstraps hit the grill on the 4th of July. Not for nothing, 130 yards is a pretty decent shot if I say so myself. I took a doe Sunday afternoon at 150 but didn't want to say anything about that just in case someone got their knickers in a twist about hunting on Sunday.
Aaron, you were right. It is about the thrill of killing.
Man, I'm getting giddy just thinking about that shot. Personally I think the 150 yarder is more remarkable but it just lacked the pure adrenalin rush of seeing that buck standing broadside on a frosty morning.
PS: I did do a fist pump, say YES while doing it and then called my buddy on the radio to yell YEEHAW!
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Oh master of hyperbole, I guess He has given you the same ability to state everyone's motives are pure! I'm impressed as well!
If you can point out where I said that, I will gladly accept the accolades.:laugh:
But, I forgot... I have a reading comprehension problem...:tongue3:
*sigh* :BangHead:
Finally. Someone with the guts to say it. And you have a nice trophy to boot.
The guy I know who truly hunts for food wouldn't take an eight-pointer if you paid him.
Not to mention a combined weight of 320 pounds of venison on the hoof. Speaking of guts.... field dressed the doe in 7 minutes. A personal record!
Okay. I wouldn't take an eight-pointer for money either. I did it for free.*
{*Excluding the cost of land, cabin, four-wheeler, gas, propane, fuel, taxes, guns, bullets, meat processing, clothing.....}
Set him straight Padre ! I'll also admit that I get a "thrill" out of an instant "lights out" killing shot. I pray that I should leave this world as quickly when it's "my time" to die.
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