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Thinkingstuff

Thinkingstuff

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Crabtownboy said:
Show us in the bill where a smiliary set up would be required in the US.
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The problem is not the set up similarity with the English system but the implementation of a system that is entirely funded by the taxpayer through the auspices of the Bureaucratic system which often is more costly than the provision of the care itself. As the Tax base deminishes payment for provision reduces and you will end up with reduction in hospitals and staffing leading to overfilled maternity beds. We see it in every industry that a government has assumed responsibility for. I've been to English Hospitals and know first hand how they operate and I'm not impressed.
 
Crabtownboy

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Thinkingstuff said:
The problem is not the set up similarity with the English system but the implementation of a system that is entirely funded by the taxpayer through the auspices of the Bureaucratic system which often is more costly than the provision of the care itself. As the Tax base deminishes payment for provision reduces and you will end up with reduction in hospitals and staffing leading to overfilled maternity beds. We see it in every industry that a government has assumed responsibility for. I've been to English Hospitals and know first hand how they operate and I'm not impressed.
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Along the same lines, I have used a hospital in the Czech Republic and talked with people there. It is a state run system and they seem to have none of the problems you speak of ... and the cost is much, much, less than here. My wife had to have her foot examined and x-rayed followed by a consultation with a doctor. The cost to us was less then $25.00 ... and she received excellent care.

So, it is not rational to point to England and say that a bill before Congress is dangerous to us because England is bad.
 
Thinkingstuff

Thinkingstuff

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Crabtownboy said:
Along the same lines, I have used a hospital in the Czech Republic and talked with people there. It is a state run system and they seem to have none of the problems you speak of ... and the cost is much, much, less than here. My wife had to have her foot examined and x-rayed followed by a consultation with a doctor. The cost to us was less then $25.00 ... and she received excellent care.

So, it is not rational to point to England and say that a bill before Congress is dangerous to us because England is bad.
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this is the heart of the heart of the issue. United States and the English system are far more similar in implementing such legislation. The Czech Republic is farther removed. Its more rational to look at something that is closer for predictable value than something futher away. Things to consider with Czech and the US. Czech prices are far lower because over all the cost of living is lower there than in the United States or the UK for that matter. You for instance can dig a well in the Czech Rebulic for 300-600 Dollars US. Where in the US you are closer to spending 1,000 - 3,000 Dollars US. A nurse may be paid in that republic 15,000 Dollars US annually where in the US a person of the same qualifications gets paid 60,000 Dollars US. Now add to it the Bureaucratic system involved. If the Government decides that medical workers are over paid (which it will) they will reduce funding and loss of income or loss of staffing will occur. Which will feed into inflation. Prices will not deminish naturally and thus poor provision of services.
 
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rbell

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Maybe someone can explain this to me...

Obamapelosireidcare prohibits insurers from placing a limit on lifetime benefits paid.

But in a strange twist, they are allowing insurers to put an annual limit on benefits paid...(of course, those limits must be approved by the health commissioner...who will be the most powerful bureaucrat in the country).

So how can you say "there's no lifetime limits" and yet have annual limits?

More government stupidity. What's worse...no one knows who put the provision in there, or how it got there. Figures.

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