Payrolls in U.S. Rose 162,000 in March; Unemployment at 9.7%

[Magnetic Poles]

Your reading skills are slipping. I did not call him a false prophet. I said time will tell if he is a false prophet concerning the economy. Big difference.

You will find that reading comprehension is not Curtis' strong suit. However, he does get his exercise with all of the leaps of logic and jumping to conclusions.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

and many of those temp jobs are census takers - paid for by the US Taxpayer.

Yep, and the U.S. taxpayer pays decently. I only have 25 more days until my job starts! :thumbs:

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Yep, and the U.S. taxpayer pays decently. I only have 25 more days until my job starts! :thumbs:

Congrats, Paul!

 

[Salty]

At least it's and increase, and not a decrease!

Granted, you are correct - but lets break that down -

that averages out to 280 jobs per state - in NY we have 62 counties - for the sake of not overestimating, I will compute at 50 counties - so now we have a net increase of 6 jobs per county! :thumbsup:

 

[targus]

I will tell you this. There is money to be made in the stock market. This has been true for over a year. If you are interested I will tell you how. I will not give specific companies to buy. You have to do your own research. But I can tell you how to follow companies and make money. It is not that hard if you are willing to work at it.

I can show you a very simple method along with a web site where most of the work has and will be done for you following this method. You will loose some money. Nobody and no system is perfect. But if you follow the system carefully you will make much more than you loose.

I'll bite. Send me a PM with the information.

I'd like to check it out.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

You will find that reading comprehension is not Curtis' strong suit. However, he does get his exercise with all of the leaps of logic and jumping to conclusions.

And you guys must get nosebleeds from being so over the top. There is a huge difference between saying someone might be mistaken, and calling them a false prophet, even if he added the weak caveat.

 

[Robert Snow]

And you guys must get nosebleeds from being so over the top. There is a huge difference between saying someone might be mistaken, and calling them a false prophet, even if he added the weak caveat.

Only in your mind was it a "weak caveat." You love to accuse others, especially CTB with dishonesty, yet your own dishonesty doesn't seem to bother you in the least.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I doubt old Curt will listen to you. After all, he basically lied about what you posted.

If I were younger, I would listen, but at my age, the stock market is taking too much of a chance with the little money I have. And, I probably won't live long enough to see any real return on my money.

You may want to look into municipal bonds. They pay a better rate than savings accounts or CDs and you pay no taxes to the feds or the state on the interest ... as long as they are to municipalities of or within your state.

 

[targus]

Only in your mind was it a "weak caveat." You love to accuse others, especially CTB with dishonesty, yet your own dishonesty doesn't seem to bother you in the least.

Why do you never seem to post anything on the various topics?

All you seem to do anymore is personally attack members that you perceive as conservative?

Please bring back the original Robert Snow.

He was an over the top libbie - but he sure wasn't as mean as this newest version. :tear:

 

[Crabtownboy]

I'll bite. Send me a PM with the information.

I'd like to check it out.

It is simple. Become educated on Kagi Charts. They are simple to understand and are easy to use as they give very definite buy and sell signals.

Go to www.stockcharts.com

At the upper right there is a window where you enter a stock symbol, like C, or F, or PAYX ... whatever company that is publicly traded. [I am not suggesting you buy these company stocks. They were excellent buys a year ago. Each has shown a good increase, but this, IMNO, is the time to hold them, not buy them.] This will bring up a candlestick chart. Look down and you will see a number of small windows where you can tweak charts. In the second window down you will see a window labeled "Type." Click on that. A long list of charts will appear including Kagi. Click on Kagi. Then click on update.

I like to change from a daily chart to a weekly chart. This cuts out noise.

Also I shorted the length of time covered to a year or less.

There are windows to do both of these things.

Pick, say, 20, companies and check them every day. Buy when the charts says buy, sell when it says sell.

A good way to find good but inexpensive stock is to go to www.fool.com
They, The Motley Fool, have good information. Check them often and read, read, read.

Go with a discount broker who will only charge you $5 to $10 a trade and do your trading online. It is simple.

Personally I like Kagi charts and point and figure charts. The PF charts are very reliable, but more complicated. If you want become knowledgeable of this type of chart. They are the only charts I know of that actually give signals of how far up or down a stock will go.

If you have other questions, please ask. I hope I have not forgotten anything important.

This is a trend following method of investing. You will not buy at bottoms nor sell at tops. But most of the time you will get a good slice of the middle. That is the best anyone can hope for. There is a wall street adage on trying to hit tops and bottom .... bears can make money and bulls can make money, but hogs will loose every time.

Once I believed the market had bottomed I looked for stock that was selling for below $10 and where the point and figure chart indicated the price of the stock would double. You can buy a good number of stock at this low price and your risk-reward ration is very good. If you are not interested in learning the PF method, stick with the Kagi system. You will be rewarded. Do a search on Kagi stock and read carefully. It really is not a hard system to understand.

 

[Robert Snow]

Why do you never seem to post anything on the various topics?

All you seem to do anymore is personally attack members that you perceive as conservative?

Please bring back the original Robert Snow.

He was an over the top libbie - but he sure wasn't as mean as this newest version. :tear:

This isn't true, I post on topics when I feel the need. In fact, I posted on topic in this very thread! And, of all the people to chastise someone for this, I don't think it should be you.

 

[targus]

This isn't true, I post on topics when I feel the need. And, of all the people to chastise someone for this, I don't think it should be you.

Say what you will - but the previous conservative Robert Snow was a whole lot nicer.

 

[rbell]

I think an important point needs making: It is dishonest to count government jobs in a "new jobs created" column (or at least to count them at a 1:1 ratio to private jobs)...because in order to create government jobs, a certain amount of private wealth must be confiscated.

I doubt people getting those government pay checks would agree with you ... and they also pay taxes.

You missed my point.

My point was that a private sector job makes more of a positive economic impact than a comparable government job. Reason: A government job costs money to fund--via tax dollars. Not so with a private job. So, although creating scores of gov't jobs does stimulate the economy--it also significantly raises government spending, which is paid for either via taxes or deficit.

That was my point. I don't begrudge Paul, or others, from getting a government job--as long as they aren't violating their conscience to do so. Granted, I'd probably have more jobs I wouldn't allow myself to take than some othes...but I understand.

 

[Crabtownboy]

You missed my point.

My point was that a private sector job makes more of a positive economic impact than a comparable government job. Reason: A government job costs money to fund--via tax dollars. Not so with a private job. So, although creating scores of gov't jobs does stimulate the economy--it also significantly raises government spending, which is paid for either via taxes or deficit.

That was my point. I don't begrudge Paul, or others, from getting a government job--as long as they aren't violating their conscience to do so. Granted, I'd probably have more jobs I wouldn't allow myself to take than some othes...but I understand.

I guess you miss my point .... any job helps.

 

[rbell]

I guess you miss my point .... any job helps.

Did you not just read my previous post?

The topic was job numbers and job growth. I'm attempting to stay on topic.

Was my (on-topic) point not clear enough? Do you disagree with it?

 

[FR7 Baptist]

I guess you miss my point .... any job helps.

I'm kind of in the middle on this. I don't think it's "dishonest" to count government jobs when determine the unemployment rate, but at the same time government jobs don't typically contribute to the economy like private, for-profit businesses do. It goes without saying that a lot of government jobs are necessary to a functioning society. For example, defending private property rights requires police and a court system. So, public sector employment can provide part of the framework that allows private industry to thrive, but it does not generate wealth in and of itself.

My position is that these temporary Census jobs should count in official unemployment figures, just as they should once they end, because Census employees are really and truly employed. At the same time, it should not be taken as a real sign of economic recovery.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Did you not just read my previous post?

The topic was job numbers and job growth. I'm attempting to stay on topic.

Was my (on-topic) point not clear enough? Do you disagree with it?

A job is a job and contributes to the economy and should be counted.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

A job is a job and contributes to the economy and should be counted.

To an extent. For example, government workers spend money and that stimulates the economy. But, government jobs don't produce anything.

 

[rbell]

A job is a job and contributes to the economy and should be counted.

To an extent. For example, government workers spend money and that stimulates the economy. But, government jobs don't produce anything.

Right!

CTB, please tell me you understand this:

A government job is paid for by tax dollars. Thus, it does not have as much positive economic impact as a private sector job--which is not paid for with tax dollars.

Certainly you understand something as basic as that.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Right!

CTB, please tell me you understand this:

A government job is paid for by tax dollars. Thus, it does not have as much positive economic impact as a private sector job--which is not paid for with tax dollars.

Certainly you understand something as basic as that.

Really. Have you considered:

The Internet was a government product from DRAPA. Think of the industry that has grown from this government product.

GPS was a government product before being released to the public.

Have you considered all the jobs in the drug industry that have resulted from products from the National Institutes of Health that were released to private industry.

Have you considered all the productivity improvements that were developed and taught by the Department of Agriculture to farmers.

Have you considered the products that have been developed through pure research that was done in government laboratories? The results are used by private industry in the development of new products and, thus, jobs.

This is simply a drop in the bucket of jobs that have been produced in private industry through government developed products.

Do you consider defense industry jobs that depend on the government as real jobs?
Where would Boeing, General Dynamics, Martin Marietta, Melpar, Haliburton and who knows how many other companies would cease to exist without government contracts?

I am not attempting to insult you with the next sentence. I think you thinking and vision is too narrow.