Liberty University Invites A Cultist To Speak At Graduation

[Martin]

According to their website, Liberty University has invited Glenn Beck (a Mormon) to speak at graduation. I suppose the fact that Beck is a cultist who denies the Biblical Jesus is irrelevant. A very sad day for Liberty University and those of us who are alumni of the school.

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[lori4dogs]

Notre Dame had Obama, Liberty gets Beck.

But, I think we all know Liberty is not endorsing Beck's Mormon beliefs but his politics.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

Notre Dame had Obama, Liberty gets Beck.

But, I think we all know Liberty is not endorsing Beck's Mormon beliefs but his politics.

Notre Dame was admonished for it. The Diocese its in was assigned a new bishop (Rhodes I believe) to deal with the Preist in charge of the university as well as other liberal issues in that diosese. You'll be hearing about the changes there I'm certain. Liberty should be also held accountable for dabbling with mormons.

 

[labaptist]

They had Ben Stein give the commencement address two years ago I think. I like Ben Stein and Glenn Beck but neither of them are born again Christians. I would have no problem if they were speaking at a political event at Liberty; (If you remember, Jerry had Teddy Kennedy speak and answer questions from the students) but think that at the very least the speaker ought to be an orthodox Christian.

 

[tinytim]

Beck might be a Mormon, but I have heard enough out of him that I would consider him more of a true believer than some who call themselves Baptist that have been on this board before who supports Homo rights, and abortion rights. Talk about non-orthodox!...

Yet, this debate wouldn't be happening if they would have chosen a "Baptist".

Beck understands the Gospel more plainly than the liberal "Baptists" do. At least he understands that Christ came to forgive sin.. not create a social utopia in this world.

Kudos to Liberty.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

Beck might be a Mormon, but I have heard enough out of him that I would consider him more of a true believer than some who call themselves Baptist that have been on this board before who supports Homo rights, and abortion rights. Talk about non-orthodox!...

Yet, this debate wouldn't be happening if they would have chosen a "Baptist".

Beck understands the Gospel more plainly than the liberal "Baptists" do. At least he understands that Christ came to forgive sin.. not create a social utopia in this world.

Kudos to Liberty.

The big issue with Mormons is they have a non-orthodox view of the Trinity. I don't think that Mormons are saved. I really hope I'm wrong, but given that they deny the Trinity, I don't see what other conclusion one can reach.

 

[preachinjesus]

According to their website, Liberty University has invited Glenn Beck (a Mormon) to speak at graduation. I suppose the fact that Beck is a cultist who denies the Biblical Jesus is irrelevant. A very sad day for Liberty University and those of us who are alumni of the school.

As an alumnus (not that it matters much) I have already sent my letter of disagreement on this issue.

Beck is a fool and a cultist. He has no business at our former school. Particularly in this setting. He will be given an honorary something another and then given the opportunity to rant and rave about whatever he chooses.

When I heard this I was outraged and continue to be so. I am deeply disappointed in the current leadership of the school over this and several other issues that are developing.

 

[matt wade]

Beck might be a Mormon, but I have heard enough out of him that I would consider him more of a true believer than some who call themselves Baptist that have been on this board before who supports Homo rights, and abortion rights. Talk about non-orthodox!...

Wow...and I thought bring a true believer was about trusting in Jesus Christ, not one's view on homosexuals and abortion. I agree with you about the liberal folks that call themselves Baptist, Tim, but to say that a Mormon is a true believer is more than a bit of a stretch. Mormon's are a cult and the vast majority of them are not saved.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

Wow...and I thought bring a true believer was about trusting in Jesus Christ, not one's view on homosexuals and abortion. I agree with you about the liberal folks that call themselves Baptist, Tim, but to say that a Mormon is a true believer is more than a bit of a stretch. Mormon's are a cult and the vast majority of them are not saved.

I couldn't agree more. I think Christians mix up their theology with their politics.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I think Christians mix up their theology with their politics. Perhaps Liberty has fallen into this trip. Many conservatives and fundamentalists have bought into the right wing and have confused Christ and the right wing view political view.

You are absolutely correct.

Also I cannot see how a Morman can be considered Christian seeing that they believe or are supposed to believe the following:

A race of gods, {advanced humanoids from a planet orbiting the mysterious star Kolab} who were once only men but through adherence to Mormon teachings became gods, called a council and decided that Jesus would be the God and savior of planet Earth. Lucifer, spirit brother of Jesus 1, wanting to be God and savior of Earth, lead a rebellion and lost. The followers of Lucifer became demons and therefore denied bodies of flesh and blood for all eternity. Those who remained neutral in the rebellion were cursed to be born with black skin 2. Those who followed Jesus were born with white skin.
This explains the Mormon doctrine of the Pre-existence of souls.
And the doctrine that God the father has a body of flesh and blood 3
God the Father is also called Michael the archangel 4

The Father, Adam God 5, came from Kolab to earth with one of his wives, Eve, to populate the planet, and of course that means there was no fall.
Joseph Smith and Brigham Young both taught originally that Polygamy was good. The scripture says its sin, and so does the book of Mormon, Jacob 2:22
Later the Father, Adam God, came back to earth and had sex with the virgin Mary 6 to give Jesus a physical body {this denys the virgin birth and conception by Holy Spirit 7}

Jesus married Mary, Martha, and Mary Magdalene and had children 8, through whom Joseph Smith is supposed to be a direct descendant.
Salvation is exaltation to Godhood. The goal is for the Mormon male to become a God and with one or more Goddesses Populate whole new worlds. Goddesses will be eternally pregnant.

Jesus died to pay for our sin nature, but his blood does nothing to cover our individual sins 9.
You must pay for your own sins with your own blood.
Salvation is accomplished by works, baptism, and temple marriage. Without a temple marriage a woman can never become a goddess. Therefore the woman must be totally obedient to her husband or he may choose not to resurrect her.

If you die and go to hell a Mormon descendant of yours can be baptized in your place. Eventually no one will be in hell. This is why the Mormon cult is the best place to go for genealogical research, their religion depends on it.

Using alcohol, tobacco, tea, coffee, coke, or Pepsi or not tithing can result in being removed from the cult and thereby loosing Godhood.

Satan originated the “you can become Gods” lie in Genesis 3:5.

http://biblefacts.org/cult/mormon.html

 

[Mississippi John]

Hey, at least they don't have singing lesbians !:laugh:

 

[jaigner]

I am just as alarmed that Liberty University would have someone so politically vocal speak at graduation. The kingdom of the world (U.S.) and the Kingdom of Christ don't mix.

Then again, the good folks at Liberty have never really seemed to understand this point.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

You are absolutely correct.

Also I cannot see how a Morman can be considered Christian seeing that they believe or are supposed to believe the following:

Crabtown,

My quote was "I couldn't agree more. I think Christians mix up their theology with their politics."

I am not sure where the other part came from, but was included as a quote from me. Just wanted to clear that up.

 

[Trotter]

Mormonism is about as far from actual Christianity as one can get without losing the terminology. Oh, they use the same words... but they have very different meanings. plus they have all kinds of stuff that Smith dreamed up and the following "leaders" have added to it, like "pre-existence", becoming gods themselves, temple marriage, continuing "revelation", etc.

Were I a student at Liberty I would be very vocal against this and would not attend if he did speak.

 

[billwald]

>The big issue with Mormons is they have a non-orthodox view of the Trinity.

Can anyone who wants to be the god of his own planet be considered rational?

For that matter, I am suspicious of anyone who wants to be president of the US.

 

[sag38]

The sky is falling. Bill actually made a post that makes sense. I agree for once. It's about as rational as wanting to have 70 virgins in paradise. What idiot would want more than one woman? I love my wife but she is quite enough woman for me. 70 wives would be a virtual hell.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

I couldn't agree more. I think Christians mix up their theology with their politics.

My politics are a result of my Theology. I think they are inseperable. My Theology should not depend on my politics however. Moral absolutes and political agenda's are born out of what I believe in my theology however.

 

[Martin]

Notre Dame had Obama, Liberty gets Beck.

But, I think we all know Liberty is not endorsing Beck's Mormon beliefs but his politics.

==I don't see how such a division can be made. Liberty University's seminary prides itself as being a school of apologetics. They even have a MA in Global Apologetics. As such, the University should not be welcoming a Mormon to speak at the most important event of the year. I wonder if they will give him an honorary degree? I hope not.

 

[Martin]

Beck might be a Mormon, but I have heard enough out of him that I would consider him more of a true believer than some who call themselves Baptist that have been on this board before who supports Homo rights, and abortion rights. Talk about non-orthodox!...

Yet, this debate wouldn't be happening if they would have chosen a "Baptist".

Beck understands the Gospel more plainly than the liberal "Baptists" do. At least he understands that Christ came to forgive sin.. not create a social utopia in this world.

Kudos to Liberty.

==If they would have selected a liberal Baptist I would have said something about it. However in this case they selected a Mormon. When did it become okay for a Christian University to honor someone who belongs to a "denomination" that openly denies the Biblical Jesus, sola-Scriptura, and salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone? In my understanding of Scripture it is not okay. Beck's political views, right or wrong, are very much secondary to his heretical religious association. He should be uninvited.

 

[Martin]

When I heard this I was outraged and continue to be so. I am deeply disappointed in the current leadership of the school over this and several other issues that are developing.

==Sadly, I agree 100%.