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Big Brother is watching you
- Thread starter HankD
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menageriekeeper
Active Member
I saw this. I'm guessing the supreme court will get it before long.
It's nothing new. The government has been tracking us for years. Check this out:
http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/
http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/
Robert Snow
New Member
Who cares?
I do, for one. I don't like the idea that someone can "track" me without my knowledge or approval. That type of info could easily fall into the wrong hands. Say someone wants to "track" high school or college age girls. They could do it without anyone knowing and they could use it for their advantage to commit crimes. They could track your movement patterns to see when you're not home so they could break into your house.
Besides, my car is MINE and I don't want anybody sticking anything to it without my permission. If it were a political or religious bumper sticker instead of a GPS device, you'd better believe the courts would be against it.
Thanks for making your agenda so clear. If Bush were in power, you would literally wet your pants in anger and defiance.
Nice double standard.
Robert Snow
New Member
You miss my point.
You cannot drive down many roads without being monitored by dozens of cameras, your cell phone can be tracked, etc.
If someone in the government wants to track you, they will track you, right or wrong.
Although I might not like this personally, I don't think there is much I can do to stop it, so, in the scheme of things, I don't see this as a real big deal.
FR7 Baptist
Active Member
Sorry Robert, but it is a very big deal. Sure, I don't think there is a reasonable expectation of privacy if a government agent wants to follow you around in public, but to affix a GPS transponder to your car is another thing. Even most conservatives can see this is a bad idea and an invasion of privacy and I expect higher standards from progressives.
Robert, another reason this is so wrong is that there is no legal recourse once you find out (if you do) that you are being tracked.
HankD
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Rats! I spent good money for a private firm to track my car -- if I ever loose it :-( And now the government is going to do it for free?
Ha! I thought that was called On-Star?
glfredrick
New Member
If you want to find out just how much people can discover about you, just run for office. You'll read all about yourself in the morning paper... Stuff that you even forgot you did. :thumbs:
I'm the admin for another Internet site (Christian off-road forum). We were attacked by someone who did not like our worldview. Within 30 minutes, we had the perpetrator on camera sitting at his desk entering text. We forwarded the film and his key-strokes to his boss, who handled the problem for us. We're not even all that high-tech, just tracking an isp number to the source then doing a search for networks and feeds...
In another case, (different site) one of the guys made a purchase then did not make good. He started bad mouthing the seller and the board members took notice. They did some web searches and started publishing pictures of him, his family, his home, his car, his work place, and then when he continued, they started with his credit card numbers, number by number. By the time they got to about the 3rd set of digits, he realized that he had better change his strategy, and he made good on the sale. But it is that easy to track people if that is what one wants to do.
Even on this board, I've seen a MODERATOR post up information about another poster that the poster asked to remain private. That is rather not a nice thing to do, even if the debate had gotten a bit out of hand in both parties. We have to be able to trust the people entrusted with our information...
Fortunately (though we are all sinners!) most of us are civilized and we simply don't pry. I can't trust our government to do likewise, however, as it seems to be their mission in life to control the people instead of vice-versa, as Constitutionally mandated.
I'm the admin for another Internet site (Christian off-road forum). We were attacked by someone who did not like our worldview. Within 30 minutes, we had the perpetrator on camera sitting at his desk entering text. We forwarded the film and his key-strokes to his boss, who handled the problem for us. We're not even all that high-tech, just tracking an isp number to the source then doing a search for networks and feeds...
In another case, (different site) one of the guys made a purchase then did not make good. He started bad mouthing the seller and the board members took notice. They did some web searches and started publishing pictures of him, his family, his home, his car, his work place, and then when he continued, they started with his credit card numbers, number by number. By the time they got to about the 3rd set of digits, he realized that he had better change his strategy, and he made good on the sale. But it is that easy to track people if that is what one wants to do.
Even on this board, I've seen a MODERATOR post up information about another poster that the poster asked to remain private. That is rather not a nice thing to do, even if the debate had gotten a bit out of hand in both parties. We have to be able to trust the people entrusted with our information...
Fortunately (though we are all sinners!) most of us are civilized and we simply don't pry. I can't trust our government to do likewise, however, as it seems to be their mission in life to control the people instead of vice-versa, as Constitutionally mandated.
Robert Snow said:
True, but that doesn't mean that I can't take steps to frustrate their efforts to do so.