New GOP House can't govern with rhetoric alone

[RAdam]

This is why you can't have any kind of discussion with Crabby. He will never engage the issues, rather spending his time assigning homework.

If these guys waste their chance to stand up and do what's right, we'll dump them next go around and find someone who will.

 

[targus]

It takes more to govern than to simply be against and never consider what should be done. The party of "NO" needs to find something positive it can promote for the country and the people of the US.

Translation for those who don't speak Magoo...

"These guys need to do what the Democrats want. Whaaa... whaaa..." :tear:

 

[InTheLight]

If these guys waste their chance to stand up and do what's right, we'll dump them next go around and find someone who will.

I think this is the last shot for the Republicans. If they don't achieve several of their objectives, if the economy doesn't get humming again, I fear they may be done as a political party.

 

[carpro]

No agenda?

Permit Americans to buy insurance across state lines

Curb frivolous lawsuits against doctors

End government control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

Save an estimated $100 billion by rolling back federal spending to 2008 levels, with exceptions for the elderly, U.S. troops and veterans

Impose a net hiring freeze on non-security federal workers. New employees would be hired only to replace those who leave.

Extend all Bush-era tax cuts permanently

Cancel all unspent money from Obama's $814 billion economic stimulus plan.

Require congressional approval of any new federal regulations that may add to the budget deficit or make it harder to create jobs.

Bolster border security

Require that suspected militants be tried in military rather than civilian courts

Work with state and local officials to better enforce immigration laws.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0320723220110103

And never forget democrats still own the senate and Obama has a veto.

If that weren't true, Obamacare and the 2.6 trillion dollars it truly cost, would be gone tomorrow.

 

[Salty]

I think this is the last shot for the Republicans. If they don't achieve several of their objectives, if the economy doesn't get humming again, I fear they may be done as a political party.

When you say "if they don't achieve..."
Are you talking about simply passing a bill in the House of Reps? Remember to make a bill a law, it must pass the Democrat controlled Senate and signed by His Majesty.

Lets say they do pass several bills -ie cancel Health care - but Senate votes it down. Will the Republicans present the '12 election as the Democrats "as the party "NO" and help put the Republicans back in control of the Senate as well as the White house?

 

[Aaron]

. . . The party of "NO" . . .

So far from being a deprecation, saying no to the Socialists is what catapulted them into power.

And you're advising them on how to succeed? :laugh:

 

[billwald]

It is in the long term interest for the Repubs to maintain a 10% or greater unemployment to assure them the presidency.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Translation for those who don't speak Magoo...

"These guys need to do what the Democrats want. Whaaa... whaaa..." :tear:

That is the kind of extremely ignorant statement I expect from you. You ask infantile questions and make silly comments, but do not add anything rational to the discussions you respond to. Additionally you almost never answer a question!

No, I meant exactly what I said. The two parties need to cooperate, compromise some of their positions and find ways to help the US and the American people. This continued saying "No" to everything is very destructive to the country. Even when Obama proposed an idea that the GOP had been pushing for for years ... suddenly they said, "Bad idea. NO WAY." You seem to find it impossible to believe there are people who are moderates and believe a middle course is best. Extremes never are the best course and it is extremes that almost all politicians are drifting toward. If this continues it will be tragic for the US.

It is time for both parties to put the country ahead of party politics.

 

[targus]

That is the kind of extremely ignorant statement I expect from you. You ask infantile questions and make silly comments, but do not add anything rational to the discussions you respond to. Additionally you almost never answer a question!

No, I meant exactly what I said. The two parties need to cooperate, compromise some of their positions and find ways to help the US and the American people. This continued saying "No" to everything is very destructive to the country. Even when Obama proposed an idea that the GOP had been pushing for for years ... suddenly they said, "Bad idea. NO WAY." You seem to find it impossible to believe there are people who are moderates and believe a middle course is best. Extremes never are the best course and it is extremes that almost all politicians are drifting toward. If this continues it will be tragic for the US.

It is time for both parties to put the country ahead of party politics.

You still have not answered my question...

What promises do you believe the Republicans have walked away from?

 

[Crabtownboy]

You still have not answered my question...

What promises do you believe the Republicans have walked away from?

Keep reading and start thinking ... ok?

Yesterday, Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) gaveled in the GOP takeover of the House. Christening his rein in tears, the self-proclaimed “most transparent person in this town” promised an era of more “honest” and “accountable” government with a set of new House rules to match. But that was yesterday afternoon. By nightfall, the House GOP leadership had already broken key pledges of transparency and accountability. Republicans have already walked back three key promises they touted up through the end of 111th Congress:
– Open Amendment Process Now Closed: Republicans have long complained that Democrats “abused their power in bypassing regular debate” by ignoring “the open rule” which “allows for nearly unlimited amendments and debate.” After a victorious November election, GOP leaders promised “to treat the Democratic minority far differently” by ensuring an open rules process. After all, they had included it in their “Pledge to America.” But now, with their first legislation to repeal the health care law, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) is suggesting the GOP will skip the open rule to avoid potentially embarrassing Democratic amendments. The excuse? It’s a “straightforward document” of a “two-page, straight repeal” so “there’s nothing to amend.” According to Budget Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI), “there’s no ability” to have open rules because “if you want to have an up-or-down vote, this is how you have to do it. And that is what our pledge was: an up-or-down vote.” Despite demanding the same of the Democrats last year, Republicans now think “some things you don’t need a hearing on.” In response to backlash over his backtrack, Boehner said, “I promised a more open process. I didn’t promise that every single bill was going to be an open bill.”

– $100 Billion Spending Cuts Now “Hypothetical”: Confidently touting their “Pledge to America,” Boehner and his Young Gun squadron reiterated the promise that they’d “save $100 billion dollars in the first year.” Just yesterday, Cantor told reporters that Republicans will soon “spell out” the cuts to obtain that number. But, according to Republican aides, that promise is more “hypothetical” than literal and the actual number “is about HALF the original estimate.” When asked by how much, Ryan said “I can’t tell you by what amount.” When Fox News pressed Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) about GOP waffling, Pence said anyone who focuses on the $100 billion figure is just “number crunching” and trying to “parse words.”

– Public Access Committee Attendance Now Unfair: In the name of transparency, the initial rule package the House GOP proposed included a provision to make committee attendance public. But (fittingly) “behind closed doors” in the House GOP conference meeting yesterday night, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) stripped the provision. The excuse? Committees have to stop scheduling hearings at the same time first. Also, “some GOP lawmakers were concerned about getting slammed for missing hearings when they may have extenuating circumstances.” “That’s not a matter of transparency. It’s a matter of inherent unfairness,” Gohmert said.

And this was all on day 1!

 

[targus]

Keep reading and start thinking ... ok?



And this was all on day 1!

More spin - but no substance.

And no links please - this is a question that requires a personal expression.

What promises do you think that the Republicans are walking away from?

 

[Crabtownboy]

More spin - but no substance.

And no links please - this is a question that requires a personal expression.

What promises do you think that the Republicans are walking away from?

If you can't figure it out then you are truly hopeless. Grow up!

 

[targus]

If you can't figure it out then you are truly hopeless. Grow up!

How am I to "figure out" what you think - when you won't say what it is that you think?

Everyone here can see that you don't have an answer.

No one is surprised.

 

[Crabtownboy]

How am I to "figure out" what you think - when you won't say what it is that you think?

Everyone here can see that you don't have an answer.

No one is surprised.

Actually everyone here can see that you are simply acting immature and dumb. Grow up!

 

[targus]

Actually everyone here can see that you are simply acting immature and dumb. Grow up!

I am simply asking you to provide your opinion on what promises the Republicans are walking away from.

You made the accusation - so I assumed that you had some examples.

I guess it was my error in making that assumption.

Oh well.... :laugh:

 

[Crabtownboy]

I am simply asking you to provide your opinion on what promises the Republicans are walking away from.

You made the accusation - so I assumed that you had some examples.

I guess it was my error in making that assumption.

Oh well.... :laugh:

Grow up! Time to grow up and stop your childishness.

 

[Aaron]

I love it when CTB is unhappy with Washington. It only means that good is in store for America!

 

[targus]

Grow up! Time to grow up and stop your childishness.

You're repeating yourself, Magoo. :laugh:

 

[matt wade]

Actually everyone here can see that you are simply acting immature and dumb. Grow up!

No, what everyone sees is that you are purposefully avoiding answering a simple question. We don't have discussions on this board so that we can all just post links to opinion pieces from news sites. We have discussions to express our opinions on a topic.

Why don't you simply answer the question? What promises does Crabby believe the Republicans have walked away from? If Crabby doesn't have an opinion on the subject, or he can't speak intelligently enough to do so, then Crabby should keep his mouth shut and fingers off the keyboard.

 

[Crabtownboy]

No, what everyone sees is that you are purposefully avoiding answering a simple question. We don't have discussions on this board so that we can all just post links to opinion pieces from news sites. We have discussions to express our opinions on a topic.

Why don't you simply answer the question? What promises does Crabby believe the Republicans have walked away from? If Crabby doesn't have an opinion on the subject, or he can't speak intelligently enough to do so, then Crabby should keep his mouth shut and fingers off the keyboard.

I believe the articles I linked pretty well cover what I think. Anyone who cannot figure that out .... well ......
My opinion does not come of of the blue, is not just my opinion. Tar simply wants me to make a statement so he can continue infantile questions and comments. He does this often. His questions are do not add to the discussion, just blows smoke and is his way of attempting to blow smoke. If he wants to add to the discussion show me articles that prove the ones I used as wrong.