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Bush and Cheney remind us how we got into this mess

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Sep 2, 2011.

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    Yes, they remind us of how we got in this mess and "C" IMHO comes off as a little man still wanting to settle real and imagined scores. I believe they know in their hearts that history will judge them very harshly. Remember a definitive history is generally acknowledged to be impossible to write until at least 100 years after an event or series of events. By the the real results and effects will be known. We are far too close to know how all this, which they began, will play out. I predict it will not be pretty as it is already ugly.

    Yes, it is an opinion piece. But isn't that what we do here on most of the time on this BB, give our opinions?

     
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    I agree with you. Even though I voted for President Bush it was only because the rest were all worst in my opinion. I kinew his record in Texas and he was inmany ways like Rick Perry who is a do nothing Govenor. He was not a great president and in fact in my opinion he should have been impeached and brought up on charges of violating the constitution.
     
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    and what would be the charge?
     
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    He violated the constitution.
     
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    How? What high crime and misdemeanor did Bush and/or Cheney commit?
     
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    Being republican probably?
     
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    You dont think we will accept that as an sufficient answer do you?
     
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    Why do we start in 2000, why don't we go back to 1999 to where the REAL problems started with the beginning of the end of the housing market?
     
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    If it takes 100 years to sort out all the facts to write a conclusive history on a matter, then why are you so confident to "believe they know in their hearts that history will judge them harshly?"

    Do you have some kind of special knowledge the rest of us don't have? I'm particularly interested how to obtain the knowledge of other men's hearts like you apparently have.
     
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    I reject this idea that it takes 100 years to have a definitive history of events. I'd say it's more like 40 years or so.
     
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    Yes, that is fine - but CTB said 100 years. Even if only 40 years, or 20 years, my question still stands to CTB.
     
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    From the Article:
    So it "possibly" violates his oath of office and it is in conflict with "Paine's Principle" Last time I checked "possibly" doesn't cut it in a court of law and the "Paine Principle" isn't the constitution.
     
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    Your citations are off topic. If you did not notice we are not discussing how history will judge Clinton. That might make for an interesting thread.

    Anyway, we are not discussing who warned of the war. We are discussing who started the war, who cut taxes and ran up huge deficits. Who really got us started on this downward spiral and how this will be judged in the future ... when all Bush hyper apologists will have gone to their eternal reward.

    Your citations are off topic. If you did not notice we are not discussing how history will judge Clinton.
     
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    You would ignore them, like you do every time this comes up.


    They refute your lie that this is all Bush & Cheney's fault. Most certainly on-topic.
     
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    Have I ever said that everything is Bush's fault? I have said that much of the mess we are faced with began during their time in office.

    Why are you trying to misdirect the thread away from how history will treat Bush and Chaney?

    Did Clinton or Bush invade Iraq?

    Did Clinton or Bush cut taxes and run up huge deficits?

    Did the housing market and economy collapse during Clinton's term in office or during Bush/Chaney's time in office?

    I was sure the collapse was coming and I was sure that B and C knew it and hoped it would hold off until they were out of office. It didn't and they were holding the bag when it did occur.

    Remember the first bail out was under Bush.

    How do you think Bush will be viewed in 100 years? Why do you feel as you do?
     
    #19 Crabtownboy, Sep 2, 2011
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    You joined here in early 2008 - I assume we can see predictions from you that the collapse was imminent.


    Really? More of this? How did you know this?
     
    #20 Andy T., Sep 2, 2011
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