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Rush guarantees millions of more votes for Obama

HankD

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I wonder how many million women will vote for Obama because of Rush trashing women. Rush is probably the best vote raiser for Obama.

Now he has less than half hearted apologized will probably drive more women into voting for Obama.

I think you are giving him a lot more credit than he deserves.

IMO, this controversy is a diversionary tactic anyway in order to displace the true issue of the Sheeple's Eugenics and Death Bill.

People and Population Control.

Apparently that's the way the majority seem to want it.

HankD
 
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targus

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IMO - abortion isn't a winning issue for Democrats any more (if it ever was).

So now they are trying to replace it with a "contraception right".
 

Robert Snow

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Absolutely. You're 100% correct. :applause::applause:

Just another example our social misogyny out in the open. I was appalled at this man's comments. No woman ever, ever deserves this kind of label.

One point, however, is that we need to also be willing to call all people on the carpet for this. As I recall Ed Schultz called Laura Ingram the same thing last year, and no one did a thing.

Good posting!

One reason no one said much about Ed Schultz is that no one listens to him.

I do agree, however, that what he said was also reprehensible.
 

Bro. Curtis

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If that's what he said, in the context of how it's been presented, yes he was way out of line. I'm glad he apologized.

But the misogynist attitude of the original poster, to say women are so fickle that they will throw their vote away by the millions on a temper tantrum is pretty offensive. I hope you are kidding.
 

InTheLight

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I pretty much agree with what Scarlett O. posted.

I really loathe Rush Limbaugh's method of arguing. He uses innuendo, questionable facts, leading questions, and sometimes he's just plain wrong, and insulting. From the audio clips I heard of this incident, he used all of these tactics.

One thing that he kept hammering was "and she wants us to pay for her birth control!" No Rush, she wants her insurance company to pay for it. How he can keep saying something that is obviously false should set off alarms, even for people that like to listen to him.

I don't think Rush's comments will sway women away from the Republican Party. He's basically an entertainer with a conservative slanted schtick. I think women are smart enough to realize he's not an arm of the Republican Party. What is troublesome is that Obama phoned Ms. Fluke and politicized the matter even further.
 
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Crabtownboy

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So, if Rush call all the 72% of women who support the provision of contraception availability in the Affordable Care Act the same names as he called Fluke? No presidential candidate can win if they do not carry the votes of women.

Now, rightly or wrongly the Republicans are being accused of a conducting a war on women. With friends like Rush the accusation appears to many women as correct ... they are being made war upon by the Republicans.

Again they cannot throw away the vote of women and expect to win. Likewise Hispanics are going to play a large role in the upcoming election. It is very possible they are throwing away that vote also.

This is becoming a very interesting election year even before we know who the Republican candidate will be.



It is certainly no secret that American women support not only the availability of contraception, but the provision of the Affordable Care Act that will now require employers to provide this coverage without need for co-pay or deductible or, in the case of religious institutions, the insurance companies who cover the employees of these religious affiliates. In the most recent poll conducted by CBS News and the New York Times, we find that 72 percent of women support requiring private insurance companies to provide contraceptive coverage at no cost to beneficiaries.

So, one is left to wonder why GOP candidates would bet the house on an issue that seems guaranteed to drive away women voters, and why an even larger voice -- that of Rush Limbaugh -- would sign up to further stoke the flames of a sure electoral loser."

Certainly, it is no coincidence that women are now finding their way back into the Obama column in light of what we've been witnessing the past few weeks, a deluge often referred to as a Republican "war on women." Interestingly, women are not only coming home to Obama because of his contraception position. In the process of migrating back to Obama, women are also crediting the President with the improvement in the economy.

http://www.drudge.com/news/154197/forbes-gop-attempts-political-suicide
 

targus

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One thing that he kept hammering was "and she wants us to pay for her birth control!" No Rush, she wants her insurance company to pay for it. How he can keep saying something that is obviously false should set off alarms, even for people that like to listen to him.

Georgetown University is a Catholic college.

She is a willing tool of the Obama administration in trying to spin the issue as one of "contraceptive rights" rather than an issue of a violation of religious liberty.

If the college keeps the right to not be forced into paying for contraception on religious grounds - and the insurance company is still required to provide it without being paid for it - then we do all pay for it in the form of higher premiums.
 

InTheLight

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If the college keeps the right to not be forced into paying for contraception on religious grounds - and the insurance company is still required to provide it without being paid for it - then we do all pay for it in the form of higher premiums.

True, but this argument is so broad that it can be applied to almost anything and would be an impediment to any change of insurance coverage of any kind.

I would counter argue that if insurance companies were compelled to provide mandatory coverage for birth control pills that the amount of people using that benefit is a small subset of all insured people.
 

InTheLight

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So, if Rush call all the 72% of women who support the provision of contraception availability in the Affordable Care Act the same names as he called Fluke? No presidential candidate can win if they do not carry the votes of women.

Now, rightly or wrongly the Republicans are being accused of a conducting a war on women. With friends like Rush the accusation appears to many women as correct ... they are being made war upon by the Republicans.

1. Rush Limbaugh is not a Presidential candidate.
2. Rush Limbaugh does not speak for the Republican Party.
3. John Boehner repudiated Rush's remarks.

The vast majority of women voters can figure this out.

This entire controversy was a canard created by George Stephenopolous during one of the Republican debates. He asked Mitt Romney if states have the power to ban contraceptives. The Democratic Party took it from there and have successfully created a strawman that they are using against the Republicans.
 

Crabtownboy

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It seems the women of America are not accepting Rush's insincere apology.

Women react to Rush's apology: Not accepted?

"Hey @rushlimbaugh. Apologies are 3 things: I was wrong, I'm sorry, I won't do it again. You failed," tweeted @StephanieReads on Sunday.

@DCDebbie tweeted, "Dear @RushLimbaugh, I'm not buying your apology and I'm not buying from your ad sponsors .... "

On TODAY's Facebook page, a user called it "one of those non-apology apologies that come off as snide and condescending."

Until Limbaugh's web apology Saturday, it was impossible to keep up with the thousands of Tweets about his radio outburst, virtually all critical.

First published March 2: “Somehow only NOW catching up on the Sandra Fluke v. Rush Limbaugh drama,” one woman posted at around 6 p.m. ET Friday. “Wish I hadn't, because now my head is going to explode. Wow.”

By Friday, Fluke had more than 16, 000 Twitter followers. (Update: On Sunday, Fluke's Twitter followers topped 22,000)

Fluke had testified during an unofficial Democratic committee hearing about how a friend had been unable to pay for the birth control needed to shrink ovarian cysts and help preserve her fertility. Fluke had been previously blocked from testifying before a Republican-led, all-male congressional panel on contraception and religious freedom.

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If that was Limbaugh’s goal, Friday’s tweets suggest he failed. “I'd love to know what Limbaugh’s wife thinks about his recent tirade,” one woman wrote. “I bet she's too busy holding aspirin between her knees to comment.”

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The president of Georgetown, a Catholic Jesuit institution, defended Fluke’s right to express her views without fear of attack. “This expression of conscience was in the tradition of the deepest values we share as a people,” John DeGioia wrote in a letter posted on the university’s website. “One need not agree with her substantive position to support her right to respectful free expression.”

http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/02/10564407-women-react-to-rushs-apology-not-accepted
 

targus

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This entire controversy was a canard created by George Stephenopolous during one of the Republican debates. He asked Mitt Romney if states have the power to ban contraceptives. The Democratic Party took it from there and have successfully created a strawman that they are using against the Republicans.

BINGO

More accurately though the controversy was probably created by the Obama campaign with Stephenopolous acting as an operative and stooge on their behalf.
 

Scarlett O.

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CTB's link said:
Certainly, it is no coincidence that women are now finding their way back into the Obama column in light of what we've been witnessing the past few weeks, a deluge often referred to as a Republican "war on women." Interestingly, women are not only coming home to Obama because of his contraception position. In the process of migrating back to Obama, women are also crediting the President with the improvement in the economy.

CTB, this quote from the link you provided and that you posted yourself has no credibility.

I don't know one single Republican woman who believes the Republican Party to be engaging a "war on women". Is there the occasional misogyny in the GOP? Sure. It's also occasionally in the Democratic Party, the church, television commercials, and work place. I don't vote as a woman with the party who is supposedly "friendly" to women. This lie purported by the political machine that women are seeking out the female-friendly candidate is a lie meant to turn the male candidates backbones to jell-o. Yes, it would be nice if we had the perfect presidental candidate who was 100% understanding of women, but it ain't gonna happen. And that's not where our interests are in electing presidents anyway. We aren't that self-centered, brother.

Nor are we Republican women "coming home to Obama". That's impossible!! We were never there in the first place. :laugh:

None of the Republican women that I know - from those who are, unfortunately, a tad ignorant to those who possess a high ability to think critically and think for themselves and lead in their respective communities - none of these women give a rat's behind about Obama's "contraception position."

What turned me off initially as a Christian Republican woman was his voting record of incessant "presents", his inexperience, and his overwhelming percentage of always voting pro-abortion.

His current position on birth control is irrelevant to me. His contacting Sandra Fluke to apologize to her is SILLY to me. Where is his apology to the rest of the country for the shape we are in?

Trust me on this CTB - there is not one GOP female who will "turn back" to Obama.

Presently, I don't care for ANY of the GOP candidates. And it frightens and saddens me. I will either vote for the GOP candidate, another non-Dem candidate, or a write-in.

I will not vote for Obama for a host of reasons.

We Republican women aren't quivering in the corner in fear nor or we scurrying like frightened mice to the nearest candidate who believes that we all should have more available birth control.

We see the world as a much bigger place than that. Give us a little more credit, brother. :flower:
 
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mandym

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Only the simple minded believes that anyone is waging a war on women or that the heart of the issue is about contraception. Those who follow after such an evil man like obama need to learn to think for themselves.
 

glfredrick

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It is called, for good reason, a "wedge" issue.

It will not have the desired effect once the campaign actually turns national.

Obama has given the Republicans some utterly peachy tag lines to use in campaigns against him once that time starts. Can't wait!
 

Crabtownboy

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Obama has given the Republicans some utterly peachy tag lines to use in campaigns against him once that time starts. Can't wait!

[FONT="Comic Sans]They, the Republicans, have already been using a fair numbr of tag lines that have nothing to do with reality. But that is the nature of modern politics in the US.[/FONT]
 
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Crabtownboy

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CTB, this quote from the link you provided and that you posted yourself has no credibility.

I don't know one single Republican woman who believes the Republican Party to be engaging a "war on women". Is there the occasional misogyny in the GOP? Sure. It's also occasionally in the Democratic Party, the church, television commercials, and work place. I don't vote as a woman with the party who is supposedly "friendly" to women. This lie purported by the political machine that women are seeking out the female-friendly candidate is a lie meant to turn the male candidates backbones to jell-o. Yes, it would be nice if we had the perfect presidental candidate who was 100% understanding of women, but it ain't gonna happen. And that's not where our interests are in electing presidents anyway. We aren't that self-centered, brother.


Scarlett, it is not the Republican women that Republican candidates need to worry about. It is the women who consider themselves independent. If they loose the independent women they will loose the election.

Nor are we Republican women "coming home to Obama". That's impossible!! We were never there in the first place. :laugh:


I would never expect them to switch to Obama. As I said it is the independents that are being driven away ... and the Republicans need them.

None of the Republican women that I know - from those who are, unfortunately, a tad ignorant to those who possess a high ability to think critically and think for themselves and lead in their respective communities - none of these women give a rat's behind about Obama's "contraception position."


Same answer as above.

What turned me off initially as a Christian Republican woman was his voting record of incessant "presents", his inexperience, and his overwhelming percentage of always voting pro-abortion.


I will defend your right to make your selection based on your beliefs.

His current position on birth control is irrelevant to me. His contacting Sandra Fluke to apologize to her is SILLY to me. Where is his apology to the rest of the country for the shape we are in?


Actually it was very good politics. It put the Republican candidates in a bind.

Trust me on this CTB - there is not one GOP female who will "turn back" to Obama.


Same answer as above about independents.

Presently, I don't care for ANY of the GOP candidates. And it frightens and saddens me. I will either vote for the GOP candidate, another non-Dem candidate, or a write-in.


Yes, I understand. It seems in recent elections we have voted more against one person rather than enthusiastically voting for a person.

I will not vote for Obama for a host of reasons.


I will defend your right to vote as you desire.

We Republican women aren't quivering in the corner in fear nor or we scurrying like frightened mice to the nearest candidate who believes that we all should have more available birth control.


Again, it is independent women you need to worry about.

We see the world as a much bigger place than that. Give us a little more credit, brother. :flower:

Good for you. Too many have a very narrow view of the world ... in both parties.

 

Borneol

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I have a feeling that this incident will reflect on Rush than the GOP and conservatives.

Sadly, conservative females have been the target of vulgar attacks from liberal commentators for years. But suspect that has not changed voting patterns.

Michelle Malkin has an article up today on the Rush comments, and a few recent past incidents where conservative females were attacked by liberal commentators.

"The anti-Rush revival revived — and Barack Obama’s petty presidency"

http://michellemalkin.com/2012/03/0...l-revived-and-barack-obamas-petty-presidency/
 

Crabtownboy

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I have a feeling that this incident will reflect on Rush than the GOP and conservatives.

Sadly, conservative females have been the target of vulgar attacks from liberal commentators for years. But suspect that has not changed voting patterns.

Michelle Malkin has an article up today on the Rush comments, and a few recent past incidents where conservative females were attacked by liberal commentators.

"The anti-Rush revival revived — and Barack Obama’s petty presidency"

http://michellemalkin.com/2012/03/0...l-revived-and-barack-obamas-petty-presidency/

She made the charge, but did not back it up with any quotes polite or vulgar. Rush was extremely vulgar in his remarks.

I do not remember any liberals using these terms about a conservative woman. Perhaps they have. If they have they are just as evil as Rush.
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