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High court strikes down Stolen Valor Act

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  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_n...high-court-strikes-down-stolen-valor-act?lite


    A real shame. I hope Congress tries again to put together legislation to punish these phonies that will be upheld.

    Please help "out" these charlatans.

    http://www.stolenvalor.com/
     
    #1 carpro, Jul 4, 2012
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    As I said in the other thread, shame on them.
     
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    From what I understand, the justices gave guidance to Congress on the matter. The SCOTUS would look favorably on a fraud law (the accused sought to gain material benefit from his\her false claim/s) instead of a limit on free speech however false. I would assume fraud would include charging a speakers' or appearance fee, gaining employment, election to a public office or some other act of misrepresentation. The future law could include a provision for the payer to sue for payment made to the person misrepresenting their medals.
     
    #3 Squire Robertsson, Jul 4, 2012
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    Lying certainly is not a crime unless you benefit monetarily, then it becomes fraud which is a crime. You can't lock up everyone who lies.
     
    #4 Berean, Jul 5, 2012
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    Xavier Alvarez in fake (here Army) uniform.

    This is the man whose case went all the way to SCOTUS. He never served in the military,
     
    #5 carpro, Jul 5, 2012
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    Why am I not surprised about all this?
     
    #6 ktn4eg, Jul 5, 2012
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    Someone is going to use this to support plagiarism and perjury soon.
     
    #7 mont974x4, Jul 6, 2012
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    Nope, at the least perjury (lying under oath\affirmation) is a well established crime.
     
    #8 Squire Robertsson, Jul 6, 2012
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    That doesn't matter. People will challenge it, and the tax payers will pay for it regardless of how the decision comes down.
     
    #9 mont974x4, Jul 6, 2012
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