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Lies and NPR Statistics

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. Revmitchell

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    ...In fact, Obama's position is only favored by a minority of the electorate, according to exit polls from last week's election--which are shared among news outlets. The Washington Post reported the results (emphasis added):

    — Taxes don’t top the list of people’s financial troubles. The biggies are unemployment and rising prices. Only 14 percent of voters ranked taxes as the biggest economic problem for people like them.

    — When the two go head to head, taxes trump the deficit. Sixty-three percent rejected the idea of raising taxes to help cut the nation’s budget deficits, even though they’ve been hitting about $1 trillion per year....

    — Nearly half, 47 percent of voters surveyed, said go ahead and raise taxes on incomes of $250,000 and up, as Obama proposes. Only 35 percent wanted no tax increases for anyone. A lonely 13 percent called for higher taxes all around.

    Note how Horsley arrives at his misleading figure of 60 percent: he adds the 47 percent who prefer Obama's proposal to the 13 percent who want to raise taxes on everyone. Presto--60 percent for Obama's side. One can manipulate the numbers to cast other conclusions: adding the 35 percent who want no taxes to the 13 percent who want tax hikes for all reveals that 48 percent oppose Obama's plan. But that would not suit Horsley's aim.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/11/13/Lies-Damned-Lies-and-NPR-Statistics
     
  2. InTheLight

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    How is that misleading? Answering you are in favor of raising taxes on everyone DOES include those earning $250,000 or more.
     
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    Please, do not confuse Rev. with facts that do not fit his ideology.

    Rev. is entitled to his opinion, but not to his created facts.
     
  4. Revmitchell

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    If you are not going to raise taxes on everyone as they wish then they are not in agreement with it. They only agree if everyone's taxes get raised. Not just some.

    Not sure why that needs to be explained.
     
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    What do exit polls have to do with the real world?
     
  6. Nevada

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    MSNBC said that Obama's -2 point something percent- win was greater than Richard Nixon's margin in the 1968 election. They also listed a bunch of other Presidential elections (all post WWII) in which the winner beat the loser by a hair. Obama's was not one of the closest.

    MSNBC is part of the corporate-owned media, so if they say it, must be true. Heck, MSNBC probably has ties to multi-national corporations (formerly American corporations, such as GE and Apple.) International banking, also.
     
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    GE owns 49% of NBC
     
  8. Nevada

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    Ah, thanks for the stat.

    Amazing how the corporate media still has to report things not always in its favor. That reveals the claim of Leftist extremists that American freedom is phoney, is an invalid claim
     
  9. InTheLight

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    What Horsley of the NPR actually said:
    Indeed, exit polls found 60 percent of voters believe income taxes should go up — either for the wealthiest Americans or for everyone.

    What the Bloomberg blogger said:
    Horsley arrives at his conclusion that a majority of voters favor Obama's position by lumping in those who want taxes to increase for everyone with those who want taxes on the rich alone.
    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpoli...pes-for-another-victory-avoiding-fiscal-cliff


    At no point did Horsley say that exit polls favored Obama's position, at no point did he say that a majority of voter's favor Obama's position, he merely said that a majority of voters favor raising taxes. Period. If anyone is being dishonest it is the Bloomberg blogger.
     
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