Feds Buy Two Billion Rounds of Ammunition

[Revmitchell]

Something strange is going on. Federal non-military agencies have bought two billion rounds of ammunition in the last 10 months. The Obama Administration says that federal law enforcement agents need the ammunition for “mandatory quarterly firearms qualifications and other training sessions.”

Radio show host Mark Levin is suspicious. He commented:

To provide some perspective, experts estimate that at the peak of the Iraq war American troops were firing around 5.5 million rounds per month. At that rate, the [Department of Homeland Security] is armed now for a 24-year Iraq war. A 24-year Iraq war! I’m going to tell you what I think is going on. I don’t think domestic insurrection. Law enforcement and national security agencies, they play out multiple scenarios. … I’ll tell you what I think they’re simulating: the collapse of our financial system, the collapse of our society and the potential for widespread violence, looting, killing in the streets, because that’s what happens when an economy collapses. I suspect that just in case our fiscal situation, our monetary situation, collapses, and following it the civil society collapses, that is the rule of law, they want to be prepared. I know why the government’s arming up: It’s not because there’s going to be an insurrection; it’s because our society is unraveling.


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/17/Feds-Buy-2-Billion-Rounds-Of-Ammunition

 

[Robert Snow]

Mark Levin, really?

 

[InTheLight]

Mark Levin, really?

There is no source for the story. WND ran the story that quotes "recent reports" then does not provide a link, a name, an author, or a government agency.

 

[Revmitchell]

There is no source for the story. WND ran the story that quotes "recent reports" then does not provide a link, a name, an author, or a government agency.

I am sorry for you oversight. You need to actually read something instead of jumping to conclusions that fit your agenda.

 

[Robert Snow]

I am sorry for you oversight. You need to actually read something instead of jumping to conclusions that fit your agenda.

Maybe you need to stop posting rumors and unsubstantiated stories you cannot backup, especially when you get your news from people like Levin.

 

[Oldtimer]

Maybe you need to stop posting rumors and unsubstantiated stories you cannot backup, especially when you get your news from people like Levin.

Is this a classic example of shooting the messenger(s)? In this case a messager bringing an OPINION up for discussion here at BB.

It's easier to shoot the messenger than it is to confirm or deny the validity of the opinion that's been presented. Levin wasn't the only one mentioned in that article.

Among them is Jeff Knox, director of The Firearms Coalition, who said:

It’s not the number of bullets we need to worry about but the number of feds with guns it takes to use those bullets. There are currently more than 70 different federal law enforcement agencies employing over 120,000 officers with arrest and firearms authority . . . That’s an increase of nearly 30 percent between 2004 and 2008. If the trends have continued upward at a relatively steady rate, that would put the total number of federal law enforcement officers at somewhere between 135,000 and 145,000. That’s a pretty staggering number, especially when you consider that there are only an estimated 765,000 state and local law enforcement officers. That means that about one in seven law enforcement officers in the country works directly for the federal government, not a local jurisdiction.​

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/17/Feds-Buy-2-Billion-Rounds-Of-Ammunition

 

[InTheLight]

Is this a classic example of shooting the messenger(s)? In this case a messager bringing an OPINION up for discussion here at BB.

It's easier to shoot the messenger than it is to confirm or deny the validity of the opinion that's been presented. Levin wasn't the only one mentioned in that article.

So if I post:

The Obama administration is hiring elephants as data entry personnel at the National Security Agency

with no references, no documentation, we should simply discuss the merits of that as if it were true?

 

[Revmitchell]

Is this a classic example of shooting the messenger(s)? In this case a messager bringing an OPINION up for discussion here at BB.

It's easier to shoot the messenger than it is to confirm or deny the validity of the opinion that's been presented. Levin wasn't the only one mentioned in that article.

Don't let anyone fool you. There were references and specifics given if one just actually reads a bit.

 

[padredurand]

The Obama administration is hiring elephants as data entry personnel at the National Security Agency

Don't be silly. Elephant keyboards are almost impossible to find.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Classic misinformation. Kind of reminds me of the report of a car race between a Russian built car and an American built car. [This was many years ago.]

The Russian car lost. But the Pravda headline read:

Russian Car Finishes Second, American Car Comes In Next To Last

:laugh:

 

[Oldtimer]

So if I post:

The Obama administration is hiring elephants as data entry personnel at the National Security Agency

with no references, no documentation, we should simply discuss the merits of that as if it were true?

Before shooting the messenger, I'd probably check to see if the Obama adminstration had ordered elephant trainers and elephant data entry terminals. Considering what these highly intelligent animals can do with their trunks it wouldn't take a mammoth sized keyboard.

Uhmmmm, perhaps the Obama administration should bring in a few elephants to replace the donkeys who are currently pressing buttons.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

It's probably something like this if they even purchased the bullets at all. I remember one "purchase" a while back wasn't even a purchase at all but rather a contract to buy up to a specified number of bullets.

 

[InTheLight]

Classic misinformation.

The Feds have not bought "2 billion rounds of ammo in the past 10 months." I did find this.

ANOKA, Minn., March 12, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- ATK (NYSE: ATK) announced that it is being awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) agreement from the Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (DHS, ICE) for .40 caliber ammunition. This contract features a base of 12 months, includes four option years, and will have a maximum volume of 450 million rounds.

Delivery started in June (9 months ago. )I suppose if the Feds were to buy 450 million rounds per year for five years it could amount to 2 billion rounds, but as I read the story the amount would be 450 million rounds total over 5 years, if the contract's option years were to be picked up.


http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...nd-customs-enforcement-dhs-ice-142304055.html

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Not to mention .40 ammo is for pistols not rifles.