Featured Is this a Landmark Baptist Church?

Could be. Sounds like any other separatist baptist church to me, not necessarily landmarkist. That being said, I was in my last IFB church for over a year before it became clear that the pastor was a "baptist-brider/Landmarkist."

So tread carefully.

 

Landmarkers and Catholics should form a club since they all go back the the apostles.

 

Mormons too... Man that would be an interesting club meeting to sit in on...

 

You know, this is interesting. Landmarkers get dumped on regularly here, but I'm waiting for a detailed rationale for such trashing. What's wrong with that view?

By the way, I know some Landmarkers who are not Baptist Briders. And while we're at it, what's wrong with the Baptist Bride view?

 

They (the views) twist scripture to fit doctrine and create pride in the hearts of believers?

http://www.gotquestions.org/landmarkism-Baptist-bride.html

 

:thumbsup::thumbsup:Yes....Perhaps the "Baptist Bride" doctrine is false. But frankly, I've not ever seen anyone explain why Scripturally. The only argument I've ever really seen is one of incredulity. That likely is all you will see here. You are also right that "Landmarkism" and the "Baptist Bride" are two different ideas and they do not necessitate each other although usually they go hand in hand. I've known many "Baptist Briders" and "Landmarkers" over the years, and these railing accusations of their arrogance and the trashing of their personal characters is unfounded. In my personal experience....they've been the most quality people I've personally ever known.

But you will see nothing but vicious unfounded personal attacks on them here, I imagine.:tear:

 

UMMM.....no....uh....not really. The "Got Questions" people really don't know what they are talking about here. On numerous levels. They have some good answers to a LOT of questions. But frankly, that link gets a 3 out of ten:tonofbricks:

 

Meh. Not their best perhaps but short and to the point, and, I think, gives an accurate reason why Landmarkism and Baptist Briderism should be rejected.

Why do you disagree with the article?

I agree that the two are separate beliefs, but like you said they often go hand in hand. And while your experience may have been good, mine has not. The Landmarkists and Brider's I've known are some very prideful and angry people. Pastors who have been in the pulpit for so long and think that they speak ex cathedra. I'm sure I'll get railed by some on here for saying that, but that is my experience and you cannot change that by ignoring it.

Are all Landmarkists and Briders like that? Probably not. But I think that a ecclesiology that is built upon having a direct line to the apostles/John the Baptist would inevitably lead to a superior attitude where the individual looks down on other, "non-successive", "corrupted" churches.

 

The Landmark movement started in the mid-19th century. Its primary advocate was J. R. Graves, who, by the way, was a Southern Baptist, I would be hard pressed to name an Independent Baptist who holds to Landmark ecclesiology.

This ecclesiology was the dominant view among Southern Baptists until the middle of the 20th century. So it would be a mistake to characterize it as some weird, radical view. It was a mianstream view for quite a long time.

It would be helpful if those who disagree with this view would exegete some scripture. Simply saying it's wrong and citing a scripture reference doesn't shed any light.

 

If we're going to have a fruitful discussion of Landmarkism, perhaps it would help to know the history of the movement.

Here's an excellent article:
http://http://baptisthistoryhomepage.com/landmark.histgrphy.harper.html

 

the Bride of Chrsit are NOT Baptists, nor catholics, nor methodist, nor anglicans etc JUSt CHRISTIANS!

 

Hmm, interesting.

So, I'm a false convert if I believe that Jesus founded His church (the one He said he would build) during His earthly ministry?

I'm a false convert because I hold that there are only local New Testament churches, and the so-called Universal Church does not exist?

I'm a false convert because I believe Jesus promised that the church he established would never go out of existence on this earth (The gates of Hell would not prevail against it)?

I'm a false convert because I believe that there have always been true New Testament churches (called by different names)?

I'm a false convert because I believe that as a general rule, Baptists hold to the same doctrines and practices found in the New Testament--and thereby qualify as true NT churches?

I'm a false convert because I believe that some denominations teach error regarding the way of salvation, the saving efficacy of baptism and the Lord's Supper, thus forfeiting the right to be called NT churches?

I do not consider myself a Landmarker, although I agree with some of its tenets. I am not a Baptist Brider, although I believe at the great General Assembly in heaven, every believer will know the truth.

Then we'll all be Baptists!
Sorry, just had to throw that in.