I didn't say that I couldn't either. You're making assumptions based upon me calling the majority on this board out. Ain't no need for me to point out the liberal side as the majority already do that.
No I was making assumptions based on how you use Jesus to beat people up that disagree with you.
I haven't defended either side. I've said repeatedly they are all in cahoots. And I have said repeatedly that Sharpton and Jackson are doing the same thing as Sean, Rush and the conservative crew.
Right now Obama and and the corporatist dems are the ones that need to be reigned in and held accountable. There'll be plenty of time to hold the repubs accountable later. If there is a later.
And that's the same reason Sean, Rush and Drudge are doing it. Ratings give them money and money gives them more power. Keep the angry folks angry and it'll keep the ratings up and make for more expensive ads and more money. Yep. Doing the exact same thing.
Exactly and in the meantime we're all the losers.
In a response directed to me unless you stuck my name there by mistake you said
So you can speak in generalities but I can't is that it? I was refering the way Obama and the dems roll out their talking points. Picking out examples of stupidity of individuals and trying to blame a whole group.
I didn't say anything about racism so why are you raising the issue of racism to me?
Because you should be one of the few people here who can see how the race card game is played by the dems to score political points with the minorities they are sticking it to, Zaac.
We agree on a lot of somethings
Actually we do.
As I said, we agree on a lot of somethings.
Yes you said that already.
Why would I want to what? Be viewed as a divisionist amongst folks who predominantly blame one side for everything?
Most of the folks here practice divisionsm if there's such a word. You said so yourself when you were complaining about the republicans. So how is acting like the rest of the divisionists here suposed to help unite us. Don't get me wrong I'm just as guilty as the next guy but I'm starting to see the total waste of time and energy it has been.
One of the founders said "we must all hang together or we will surely hang separately", can't recall who said it but it seem pertinent at this moment because we are so divided in this nation.
As you mentioned about the truth in re the social programs, what I say about the GOP is the truth. I'm viewed as a divisionist because I point out that the side the majority on this board loves is just as guilty of doing the things they claim to be so against as are the Dems.
I agree but like I said right now is the time to hold Obama and the dems accountable. I don't like to take sides with the republicans any more than you do but we have a common foe to battle. Right now it's the dems.
If I had my way everyone would base their convictions on the bible the declaration of independence and the constitution and hold the feet of everyone that violates them to the fire but sad as it is party loyalty seems to trump all three these days.
As I said before, I don't give a flying hoo hoo about political parties. My concern goes right back to these people on this board representing the church espousing the very same ideas and sentiments as the man from NC because their politics means more to them than righteousness. It's wicked no matter how they try to justify it.
I agree. I thought it was a mistake for the church to get into politics from the beginning. The church's job is to educate us in how to live righteously and identify the dangers of this world so we can avoid them not be a hedge against "liberalism". From the discussions I've read on this board most Christians view "liberalism" as the number one enemy. We have been conditioned to the point of fixation on one problem to the exclusion of all others. It took decades to become this programed Zaac deprogramming isn't going to happen over night.
Which is why I post in juxtaposition to what the majority are posting to make the point that both sides are the same. So on this board, why are we, GOD's representatives to the world, caught up in it and doing the same thing as the man from NC and attempting to justify it in much the same way as we tried to justify supporting a Presidential candidate who is against Christ?
Decades of bad sermons and corporate programing.
It is the continued wickedness coming out of the church that we continue to try to justify that keeps the world in its spiral down.
Then the place to make changes would the church right?
And like on this board, folks love their politics so much that they will refuse to recognize it.
Tribal instincts. Everyone likes to be part of a like minded group.
Gosh, I don't know where you've seen that. I just choose to point out the equally as foolish tyranny coming from the side that the majority on this board supports. They got the other side covered.
Yes they do but beating people over the head with Jesus isn't going to do much good imho. No one likes to hear from somebody that comes off as being self righteous. I know you mean well Zaac and I agree with you on a bunch of stuff but gee golly wow man we go to church to be preached to. We come here to vent our frustration with government.
We all need to vent a little sometime and this is a good place to do it.
Something else we agree on.
Good.
The way I see it is that I picked out an example of a man on one side saying the same things and representing the same attitudes that I see on this board daily. And it just do happens I har the same thing on talk radio and the other conservative media outlets daily. It's obvious where the talking points are coming from when you've heard someone else say it first.
You know how I lowered my blood pressure? I stopped listening to talk radio. I don't need some partisan hack telling me how to think and what to think about.
I can figure out what to think about on my own. Do yourself a favor turn that garbage off it's a waste of time and you'll be all the happier for it.
Right along with the folks on the other side who have been equally complicit.
Most of us don't know any better and we all have to face that on our own terms. Believe me when I tell ya there have been times here when I wanted to pull my hair out and throw my computer out the window because I haven't been able to change people's minds about things.
In the end all I can do is put the information in front of them and hope some of it sinks in. I tried beating people up. It doesn't work they only harden their hearts more because of it.
