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Great Pretender whine: FNC 'unfair to me,' profits unfairly reporting scandals

President Obama extended his criticism of Fox News during the second part of his interview with host Bill O’Reilly, suggesting the network has profited by unfairly covering such stories as the Benghazi terror attacks and the IRS targeting of conservative groups.

“Absolutely, of course you have,” the president said when O’Reilly asked whether he was unfair in his coverage of the Obama White House. “Here’s what I would say: I think regardless of whether it’s fair or not, it has made Fox News very successful,” adding: “What are you going to do when I’m gone?”

Obama made the comments Monday, following part-one of the interview, which aired on Super Bowl Sunday and focused on ObamaCare and the IRS targeting scandal.

“Folks have, again, had multiple hearings on [the IRS.] I mean these kinds of things keep on surfacing, in part because you and your TV station will promote them,” the president told O’Reilly in the Sunday segment.
So all his problems are the fault of Fox News? He's done nothing wrong, it's just that FNC is such a powerful force in the media that his popularity numbers have dropped over 30 points since he took office, even among liberals? Do liberals even watch FNC?

What a load of horse hockey!
 

InTheLight

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This is a good example of Fox News and their habit of reporting via innuendo.

Here is the exact quote by Obama:
"I think regardless of whether it’s fair or not, it has made Fox News very successful,”

Here is how Fox News spun the quote:
President Obama [..] suggested the network has profited by unfairly covering such stories as the Benghazi terror attacks and the IRS targeting of conservative groups.

Obama never used the word profit. Fox News interprets his quote for him by stating he "suggested the network has profited."

Does success = profit? Not necessarily. Success in the TV news business means higher ratings, which means more viewers, which means the network could charge more for commercial spots. BUT, we don't know what kind of expenses Fox News has so we don't know for sure that they profited more by carrying these stories.

thisnumberdisconnected said:
So all his problems are the fault of Fox News?

ALL his problems? No, Obama said that he was having problems with the Benghazi and IRS scandals because he felt Fox News was giving undue coverage to these stories.
 
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Revmitchell

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This is a good example of Fox News and their habit of reporting via innuendo.

Here is the exact quote by Obama:
"I think regardless of whether it’s fair or not, it has made Fox News very successful,”

Here is how Fox News spun the quote:
President Obama [..] suggested the network has profited by unfairly covering such stories as the Benghazi terror attacks and the IRS targeting of conservative groups.

Obama never used the word profit. Fox News interprets his quote for him by stating he "suggested the network has profited."

Does success = profit? Not necessarily. Success in the TV news business means higher ratings, which means more viewers, which means the network could charge more for commercial spots. BUT, we don't know what kind of expenses Fox News has so we don't know for sure that they profited more by carrying these stories.

Fox news got it right. Your nitpicking does not change facts.
 

Revmitchell

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Fox news probably got it right. Just because they sell commercial time doesn't mean they are profitable.

Your criticism is unfounded especially in light of the fact that they did include the full quote as Obama said it. You are reaching again.
 

InTheLight

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Your criticism is unfounded especially in light of the fact that they did include the full quote as Obama said it. You are reaching again.

I see...so it's perfectly acceptable for a news agency to change the words a person used and misrepresent it as a quote so long as they put the actual quote somewhere later on in the article?
I'll keep that in mind when I quote you on BB.
 

Revmitchell

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I see...so it's perfectly acceptable for a news agency to change the words a person used and misrepresent it as a quote so long as they put the actual quote somewhere later on in the article?
I'll keep that in mind when I quote you on BB.

No, however you are now doing the very thing you are accusing Fox of. I said none of that.

It is not a stretch to suggest that success equals profits since that is their main business. Your suggestion otherwise is off base and really kind of weird.

I'm just sayin
 

InTheLight

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No, however you are now doing the very thing you are accusing Fox of. I said none of that.

It is not a stretch to suggest that success equals profits since that is their main business. Your suggestion otherwise is off base and really kind of weird.

I'm just sayin

What is happening is that Fox News is putting words in the President's mouth. "The President suggested... is simply shoddy reporting.
 
This is a good example of Fox News and their habit of reporting via innuendo.

Here is the exact quote by Obama:
"I think regardless of whether it’s fair or not, it has made Fox News very successful,”

Here is how Fox News spun the quote:
President Obama [..] suggested the network has profited by unfairly covering such stories as the Benghazi terror attacks and the IRS targeting of conservative groups.
That's not "spin." That's what he said. His is the spin. Fox took the lipstick off the pig.
Obama never used the word profit. Fox News interprets his quote for him by stating he "suggested the network has profited."
The phrase " ... whether it's fair or not ... " implies there is a question of it's fairness, and there is not. Juxtaposing that with the phrase " ... very successful ... " further implies that Fox's "potential unfairness" -- the concept the whining Great Pretender successfully planted in listeners' and readers' minds with those two cleverly married expressions -- is profiting them, and therefore suggests that the profit is also unfair. Learn the tactics of politicians and you'll soon realize none of them ever really says anything, but let you think they did.
Does success = profit? Not necessarily. Success in the TV news business means higher ratings, which means more viewers, which means the network could charge more for commercial spots. BUT, we don't know what kind of expenses Fox News has so we don't know for sure that they profited more by carrying these stories.
I'm not sure what you're point is here. Why are you arguing FNC may or may not be profitable? That isn't the issue. The "president" accused them of being unfair, not unprofitable.
ALL his problems? No, Obama said that he was having problems with the Benghazi and IRS scandals because he felt Fox News was giving undue coverage to these stories.
Which is ridiculous, given his own party in the Senate was unable to come out with a whitewash of the Benghazi scandal, laying blame at the feet of both te White House and State.
 

InTheLight

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Learn the tactics of politicians and you'll soon realize none of them ever really says anything, but let you think they did.

I'm well aware of it. Politicians are the masters of question begging and building strawmen.

TWhy are you arguing FNC may or may not be profitable? That isn't the issue.

Read the thread title. Read the first sentence of the news article.
 
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