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Soros Funded “Libyan Scenario” Now Unfolding in Ukraine

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  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Libya suffered from an order out of chaos plan. A similar design on Russia’s frontier is now underway

    Kurt Nimmo
    Prison Planet.com
    February 22, 2014

    Back in 2011 the Party of Regions warned that if left unchecked the globalist financier George Soros would unleash a “Libyan scenario” on Ukraine.

    “I even have information that Soros has allocated certain funds in order to prepare a certain group of young boys here in Ukraine who could launch any existing projects based on the North Africa examples,” said Aleksandr Yefremov, head of the Party of Regions parliamentary faction.

    A “certain group of young boys,” namely violent gun-toting hooligans from the Right Sector and associated neofascist groups, are reportedly in control of Kyiv as of Saturday. Members of 31st Hundred, an opposition group from Lviv, were said to be in control of Ukraine’s Parliament building, The New York Times reports, and the president, Viktor Yanukovych, has fled the capitol. Protesters have taken control of his home.

    The United States and NATO supported mercenaries in Libya who overthrew the government and murdered its leader, Col. Muammar al-Gaddafi. Libya is now paralyzed by factional, regional, tribal and ideological divisions, a fate Ukraine now confronts as stores are looted, cash machines emptied, and a mass exodus departs the capitol for Odessa, Simferopol and Kharkov, Ukrainian cities largely loyal to the government and less affected by the turmoil, according to Russia Today.

    In 2008 the now imprisoned former prime minister, Yulia Timoshenko, talked about the role George Soros played in Ukrainian politics and the advice he gave following the financial crisis.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/soros-funded-libyan-scenario-now-unfolding-in-ukraine.html
     
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    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Tymoshenko Promises to Deliver Ukraine to the Globalists

    On Saturday, oligarch, embezzler, murder suspect and former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko, released from a clinical hospital in the eastern industrial city of Kharkiv, told the Euromaidan revolutionaries in Kyviv’s Independence Square to stay the course.

    “Do not leave Maidan as long as you have not obtained what you wanted,” she told the crowd. “Your fight for freedom will bring about democracy in other ex-Soviet republics.”

    “This is a different Ukraine. This is a Ukraine of free people, and you have given this country to each and all of us, those who are living today and those who will live tomorrow. That is why people were on Maidan, who perished on Maidan will be heroes for ever,” she said.

    As she traveled to Kyviv to embrace the revolution that claimed the lives of around 100 people and brought down the government of a corrupt Yanukovych and his confederates, Tymoshenko declared she is “sure that Ukraine will be a member of the European Union in the near future and this will change everything,” according to the Interfax news agency.

    http://www.infowars.com/tymoshenko-promises-to-deliver-ukraine-to-the-globalists/
     
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    Prison Planet, first of all, is a left-wing media mouthpiece populated by socialist journalists. Does it make sense that they would author a piece critical of a socialist-Marxist? Secondly, all the "facts" in the story come from a fellow party member of ousted Marxist president Viktor Yanukovych. There is no corroboration, no effort to confirm the allegations, they are simply quoted and left to stand as though absolutely factual.

    You missed your favorite thing in the world here, Poncho: A conspiracy. Prison Planet conspired to discredit a democratic uprising and attempted to turn the tables on those seeking freedom in the Ukraine by accusing them of being the nefarious party to the conflict. That's old-line Soviet strategy, right out of Breshnev's book, chapter and verse. And you bought it. You're slipping, old boy, you're slipping.
     
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    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Any American citizen that doesn't go along with authoritarian government is "left wing" according to you. Yet you seem to support any foreigner that takes a stand against authoritarian government. :confused:

    Freedom and democracy for everyone but American citizens, is that it?

    How do you know it's a democratic uprising?

    Where's your proof?

    You make claims all day long but they don't anything without proof.
     
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    Talking to the mirror again, I see...
     
  6. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    If I were you wouldn't have heard it. Unless you're the mirror.
     
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    I put nothing past Soros. An evil man and a sad day he made it to this country!
     
  8. poncho

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    Me neither.

    I'm still wondering why the person who complains the most and loudest about liberals and marxists is trying to convince me that Soros has nothing to do with the protests over there.

    Strange.
     
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    The proof of what I said about the Prison Planet article can be seen by anyone who reads it. The fact that Yanukovych is Marxist is beyond question. Like the folks in the GIECO commercials say, "Everybody knows that." One doesn't even have to be a student of Soviet history to know that the first tactic of a Marxist is to blame somebody else, anyone else. Your claim against my claim is just plain lame.
     
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    That's what I thought. Your only proof is your own opinion. Again.

    You mean like Faux Snews and the corporate media is doing for Soros and his "democratic" NGOs in Ukraine?

    Soros leverages "human rights" for personal gain - as does his global NGO empire.

    It would be almost four months after the beginning of the so-called "Arab Spring" before the corporate-media would admit that the US had been behind the uprisings and that they were anything but "spontaneous," or "indigenous." In an April 2011 article published by the New York Times titled, "U.S. Groups Helped Nurture Arab Uprisings," it was stated:
    "A number of the groups and individuals directly involved in the revolts and reforms sweeping the region, including the April 6 Youth Movement in Egypt, the Bahrain Center for Human Rights and grass-roots activists like Entsar Qadhi, a youth leader in Yemen, received training and financing from groups like the International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute and Freedom House, a nonprofit human rights organization based in Washington." ​
    The article would also add, regarding the US National Endowment for Democracy (NED):

    "The Republican and Democratic institutes are loosely affiliated with the Republican and Democratic Parties. They were created by Congress and are financed through the National Endowment for Democracy, which was set up in 1983 to channel grants for promoting democracy in developing nations. The National Endowment receives about $100 million annually from Congress. Freedom House also gets the bulk of its money from the American government, mainly from the State Department. " ​
    George Soros and his Open Society Institute also played a leading role in the unfolding unrest. Soros, in addition to fully supporting many of the NGOs in tandem with NED and the US State Department, also funded opposition groups working well in advance to produce new "constitutions" for collapsed nations.

    In "George Soros & Egypt's New Constitution," it was reported:
    "It turns out that the new Egyptian Constitution has already been drafted, not by the Egyptian people, but by the very US-backed protesters who brought about regime change in the first place. A Reuters report quoted an opposition judge, who had been hiding-out in Kuwait until Mubarak's ousting, as having said civil society groups had already produced several drafts and a new constitution could be ready in a month.

    These "civil society" groups include the Arabic Network for Human Rights Information openly funded by George Soros' Open Society Institute and the Neo-Con lined NED funded Egyptian Organization for Human Rights. It appears that while the International Crisis Group may be turning out the strategy, and their trustee ElBaradei leading the mobs into the streets, it is the vast array of NGOs their membership, including Soros, fund that are working out and implementing the details on the ground."

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    Clearly there is more behind Soros' funding of NGOs globally than mere "liberal philanthropy." That he carries out this funding in concert with notorious warmongers, corporate fascists, and confessed Neo-Conservatives indicates a very malicious and disingenuous agenda driving not only his "charity" but also the maintaining of his deceptive "liberal" persona.
    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/03/surpise-soros-is-convicted-criminal.html

    Hint: The real news isn't found on Faux Snews. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Fascism On the Rise in Ukraine

    On Wednesday Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe must “decisively condemn” the rise of “nationalist and neo-fascist” sentiment in western Ukraine.

    He said the Russian government has video evidence showing how Ukrainian ultra-nationalists initiated violence that directly and indirectly lead to the death of over 100 people during the Euromaidan uprising.

    “The Western media prefer not to talk about the riots for what they really were, demonstrations arranged by extremist groups. Perhaps the leaders of the European institutions do not know about the actions of these extremists who were disguised as civilians,” a statement issued by the Russian Foreign Ministry reads.

    “We are most deeply concerned about what is happening in Ukraine. We are startled to hear that some Western countries misinterpret the events, trying to influence the situation.”

    “We do not know if the authorities will be able to control the situation,”said Anna Demchenko of the Information-Analytical Center of Moscow-based daily news website Vestnik Kavkaza. “We must not ignore or hush up the involvement of radicals in the events in Ukraine.”

    On Tuesday, Marina Petrova, Vice President of the Information and Analytical Center for Post-Soviet Studies at Moscow State University, warned that fascist ultra-nationalists are overtaking the Euromaidan revolution.

    “A key role [in the violent protests] is being played by extremists who are not taking orders neither from the government nor the opposition and they are benefiting from the high tension and the absence of peace,” Petrova.

    “There are many other groups inside the protest that are anti-Semitic and ultra-nationalist,” she said. “And the directions they are pushing the protest is very dangerous.”

    Ultra-nationalist groups involved in violent confrontations against the Yanukovich government include Svoboda (Freedom), Pravi Sector (Right Sector), UNA-UNSO (Ukrainian National Army – Ukrainian National Self Defense) and others.

    The racist ideology of Svoboda was underscored in 2012 when Ihor Miroshnychenko, the deputy chief of the party, wrote disparagingly of Ukrainian-born American film actress Mila Kunis on his Facebook account: “[Kunis] is not Ukrainian, she is a Yid. She is proud of it, so [the] Star of David be with her.” He dismissed her as a “dirty Jewess,” a comment resulting outrage in Israel, Western Europe and the United States.

    http://www.infowars.com/fascism-on-the-rise-in-ukraine/

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