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GOP Blocks Senate Bill Curbing Gender Pay Gap

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preachinjesus

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Its an entirely unenforceable law.

The pay gap will be closed the way it should be, through the open market. Its a simple fact: among Millennials, women are earning college degrees at a higher rate then men. As a result they are entering the workforce at a higher rate. This gap will be closed naturally, and it should be closed. There is simply no way this kind of law is able to be enforced.
 

Revmitchell

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Sigh, this is a non issue. There is no real gender pay gap. When men and women have the exact same education, experience, time on the job etc, in other words all things being equal then everyone gets paid the same. Current stats to not reflect women's interruptions in the work force to take care of family and things of that nature.

This like minimum wage is a made up issue.
 

Crabtownboy

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Sigh, this is a non issue. There is no real gender pay gap. When men and women have the exact same education, experience, time on the job etc, in other words all things being equal then everyone gets paid the same. Current stats to not reflect women's interruptions in the work force to take care of family and things of that nature.

This like minimum wage is a made up issue.

What world do you live in?

Female workers at Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the nation's largest private employer, earned 4.5% to 5.6% less than men doing similar jobs and with similar experience levels between 1996 and 2001, according to a study conducted as part of a federal discrimination lawsuit.

The study, based on an analysis of Wal-Mart payroll data obtained under the litigation, found that among nonsalaried workers, men earned an average of 37 cents an hour more for similar work.

The pay gap widens higher up the management ladder, the report said. It found that male management trainees make an average of $23,175 a year, compared with $22,371 for women trainees.

At the senior vice president level, the average man makes $419,435 a year, the report said, whereas the four women in the position earn an average of $279,772.
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/feb/04/business/fi-walmart4

Among recent college graduates, full-time working women on average earn 82% of what their male peers earn, according to a study released todayby the AAUW (American Association of University Women). The report is based on 2009 U.S. Department of Education statistics.

The result is similar to a broader study by the Institute for Women's Policy Research, which said that in 2011, the gender wage gap for working women of all ages was 82.2%. It found that women earned less in every occupation except bookkeeping, accounting and auditing clerks.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2012/10/24/gender-pay-gap/1652511/

The median annual earnings for full-time, year-round women workers in 2012 was $37,791 compared to men’s $49,398.1
In 2013, the median weekly earnings for full-time working women was $706, compared to $860 for men.2
In 2013, the median weekly earnings for women in full-time management, professional, and related occupations was $973, compared to $1,349 for men.3
In 2012, full-time working married women with spouses present had median usual weekly earnings of $751, somewhat higher than never married women ($594) or women of other marital status (divorced, separated, or widowed - $735).4
In 2012, full-time working married men with spouses present had median usual weekly earnings of $981, significantly higher than never married men ($620) or men of other marital status ($815), or women of any marital status.5
In 2013, Asian women who were full-time wage and salary workers had higher median weekly earnings than women of all other races/ethnicities as well as African-American and Latino men.6

http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/womens-earnings-and-income
 
What world do you live in?
Ever since I came back from Desert Storm, the Real World. How about your?

I ask because your posted article is living in another universe. Your Los Angeles Times article is deliberately slanted because it fails to consider other factors which influence earnings and occupation. These include differences in education, training, and tenure that may also be related to earnings and whether or not one holds a management position. Wal-Mart will have to show that the women were less qualified than the men were for these management positions in order to convince a judge and/or jury that they did not discriminate. Given the demographics of Walmart employees, that's almost a given.

Walmart managers, both male and female, when interviewed for the book "Women and the Economy" a college undergrad textbook by Saul Hoffman, indicated that many women employed at Walmart express a desire to work only a few years and then have children, or go back to school, so they aren't going to be around as employees long enough to be promoted to managers. Like other commercial and industrial corporations, manager material is described as being, among other things, people who want to make a career with the company.

The women suing Walmart are going to have to prove that women are consistently paid less than men, and particularly that underqualified men are paid more than qualified women. It is doubtful that is provable. Walmart, whether you believe it or not, is not going to set itself up for wage- and gender-discrimination lawsuits when it will cost them millions of dollars.

I found it fascinating you posted the same AAUW study I posted proving that the wage-gender gap is bogus. That is precisely what the AAUW study proved, based on level of education, time actually on the job, experience, and willingness -- as with Walmart -- to make their job with a given company into a career with that company. But you and USA Today obviously didn't want to read that far.

Your "catalyst.org" post suffers from the same myopia as the USA Today hack job reporting the AAUW study, so I'll let that dead dog lie.
 
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Crabtownboy

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The GOP supporters on the BB are no more rational than the GOP politicians. Why is it that GOP conservatives oppose showing the salaries of their male managers versus the female managers? Why does the GOP support corporate policies making it a firing offense to ask others how much they make and use that information to ask for equal pay?

It seems very likely that the answer is that women are inferior and thus do not deserve equal pay even if they are doing equal work just as well or better as their male counterparts.

 
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Bro. Curtis

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You are being dishonest, again. You talking points have been debunked. Can't you even muster enough love to stop saying things about your opponents you know aren't true ?
 
The GOP supporters on the BB are no more rational than the GOP politicians. Why is it that GOP conservatives oppose showing the salaries of their male managers versus the female managers? Why does the GOP support corporate policies making it a firing offense to ask others how much they make and use that information to ask for equal pay?
Better yet, why do socialist liberals make something that is a non-issue an issue in an election year? Could it be they have no answer for the ACA debacle and trying desperately not to go down in flames November 4?

These clowns masquerading as lawmakers in the Democratic Party know good and well their arguments are bogus, or based on twisted, incomplete data. Hmm ...

Come to thing of it, that sounds kinda like the ACA, too. So they're really not doing anything different, are they?
 

Bro. Curtis

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This reminds me of your slander against the tea party. You were totally unwilling to address any facts then, as well.


Bearing false witness is a sin, C.T.Boy. Somebody needs to tell you that.
 

carpro

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Sigh, this is a non issue. There is no real gender pay gap. When men and women have the exact same education, experience, time on the job etc, in other words all things being equal then everyone gets paid the same. Current stats to not reflect women's interruptions in the work force to take care of family and things of that nature.

This like minimum wage is a made up issue.


It was introduced primarily because it's an election year.

Democrats, as usual, trying to buy votes by making it more difficult for businesses to operate.

Just more of Obama's war on business.
 

Revmitchell

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Why is it the extreme left wing progressives/socialists/marxists (all the same thing) on the BB bring their marching orders from the DNC to the BB.
 

prophet

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Women are incapable of leading to the equal of men. So if we are talking management, they will never be equal.
A married man ,with a SAHW, is far more valuable than any other choice, male or female, and the stats prove it.
See who takes the least time off of work.

Anyway, the American dream is to have your own business, not whine at somebody else's, about the pay.
 

InTheLight

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Why is it that GOP conservatives oppose showing the salaries of their male managers versus the female managers?

Because it will lead to back-biting, gossip, favoritism, and declining morale.

Asked and answered. Next question...

Why does the GOP support corporate policies making it a firing offense to ask others how much they make and use that information to ask for equal pay?

I didn't know they were in favor of this. Link?

I suppose they don't want a bunch of gossip and false information to get bandied about. Besides, this is confidential information.

Can you imagine?

Female Worker: "I want to get paid the same as my male counterpart at the Louisville facility."

Manager: "And how much does he get paid."

Female: "$46,800 a year. He told me."

Manager: "He lied to you."

Female: "Then show me his payroll records."

Manager: "Nice try, but no."
 

InTheLight

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Why is it the extreme left wing progressives/socialists/marxists (all the same thing) on the BB bring their marching orders from the DNC to the BB.

The same reason that GOP operatives on BB bring their slanted news items from Breitbart and Drudge Report.
 

Crabtownboy

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The same reason that GOP operatives on BB bring their slanted news items from Breitbart and Drudge Report.

Amen, well said. I have the feeling that there are those conservatives on the BB who do not really believe in free speech, equality or transparency ... when it comes to their pet beliefs.

It is becoming so transparent that the GOP really does not want equality, especially equality for women that asking a woman to vote for the GOP is like asking some insects to lobby for using Raid.
 
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I have the feeling that there are those conservatives on the BB who do not really believe in free speech, equality or transparency ... when it comes to their pet beliefs.
No, those are strictly Democratic Party and operatives "pet beliefs." Hie thee to a doctor -- you "feelings" are illin'.
It is becoming so transparent that the GOP really does not want equality, especially equality for women that asking a woman to vote for the GOP is like asking some insects to lobby for using Raid.
Untrue. What we oppose is the "more equal than you" legislation that the Marxists are trying to beat the drum for to distract everyone from the failed healthcare law.
 

Crabtownboy

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No, those are strictly Democratic Party and operatives "pet beliefs." Hie thee to a doctor -- you "feelings" are illin'.Untrue. What we oppose is the "more equal than you" legislation that the Marxists are trying to beat the drum for to distract everyone from the failed healthcare law.

How is it the GOP, in one day, slapped three groups:

Blocking the minimum wage ... showing the GOP is for minimum wage, the more minimum the more they are for it.

Blocked reforming mine safety laws ... so what if we have miners with Black Lung.

Blocked equal pay ... sorry women, but we Republicans know you do not deserve equality with men.

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Quite a day for the GOP. Wonder when the will try to kill corporate pensions so the executives can have bigger bonuses?
 
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