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Global warming is not due to natural factors, says expert
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Serious question here, one that not one single climate change supporter has ever answered. Ever. Supposedly the earth has been recovering from an ice age that happened some 12,000 years ago. Most even say that we still have not returned to a pre-ice age state as proven by the large portions of the world that were previously ocean... (their claims that these places were oceans and it was not a global flood). Therefore, the earth has been warming for over 12,000 years. Why is it NOW, when all the green earthers are trying to eliminate the stuff they don't like, is it unnatural that the earth is getting warmer? It's been getting warm for 12,000 years. But for only 40 years it's because of us? Really?
An article by another snake oil salesman in a long line of them. According to the bible the sun will heat up and do the damage so set back and watch the hand of the Lord Rev 16:8-9. The one thing these climate change people ignore is that they sun is getting hotter.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/jul/18/20040718-115714-6334r/?page=all
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/jul/18/20040718-115714-6334r/?page=all
thisnumbersdisconnected
New Member
CTB and SNy will never buy that, Judith, and neither will the "experts" who are nothing more than "have-nots" who want to become "haves" by trying to convince gullible people -- like CTB and SNy -- there is a dangerous warming trend that only they have any chance of finding answers to. Think Al Gore and his "cap-and-trade" exchange that he wanted to start for the sole purpose of making millions. But the rest of us need to "trust them" and not ask stupid, obvious questions they don't want to answer in the first place.
Thanks for the information anyway. :thumbsup:
Thanks for the information anyway. :thumbsup:
I think Shaggy's on our side, on this one.
Anyway, this is absurd. Even the greenest scientists admit the earth releases more co2 than humans ever could.
Trust in The Lord.
Anyway, this is absurd. Even the greenest scientists admit the earth releases more co2 than humans ever could.
Trust in The Lord.
There are people who will not believe it because it has been prove to be a myth that is perpetuated for political reasons.
Your premise is incorrect. The earth has had warming and cooling periods in those 12,000 years. Are you aware of the mini ice-age of the 17th century. There have been other cool periods also.
Oh so wrong again.
You should latch onto the idea, being presented by some scientists, that as the solar active has been very low that we may be entering a cooling period and perhaps another mini ice-age.
Would be interesting, wouldn't it?
And here is the problem... 10 years ago that didn't exist. So, yet again, when people start asking questions someone just makes more stuff up. 40 years ago we were returning to an ice age and we were all gonna die if we didn't change... now we are all gonna fry. The models are wrong, the "scientists" have been proven liars, etc., etc. It's a crock and more people are seeing it for what it is.
And here is the real kicker... I have no problem with creating a cleaner, "greener" planet. I have no problem with kicking dependency on fossil fuels, which is doing nothing but making a bunch of a people who hate us billionaires. I like clean rivers and lakes to swim and paddle in. Just be honest and do it in a rational way. But you guys keep treating people like mushrooms and you are losing ground daily...
The global warming myth is a political tool to grab power away from people.
There is no scientific evidence that human activity is causing the planet to warm, according to Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore, who testified in front of a Senate committee on Tuesday.
Moore argued that the current argument that the burning of fossil fuels is driving global warming over the past century lacks scientific evidence. He added that the Earth is in an unusually cold period and some warming would be a good thing.
“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years,” according to Moore’s prepared testimony. “Today, we live in an unusually cold period in the history of life on earth and there is no reason to believe that a warmer climate would be anything but beneficial for humans and the majority of other species.”
“It is important to recognize, in the face of dire predictions about a [two degrees Celsius] rise in global average temperature, that humans are a tropical species,” Moore said. “We evolved at the equator in a climate where freezing weather did not exist. The only reasons we can survive these cold climates are fire, clothing, and housing.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/25/gr...#ixzz2uOjs5gcY
Moore argued that the current argument that the burning of fossil fuels is driving global warming over the past century lacks scientific evidence. He added that the Earth is in an unusually cold period and some warming would be a good thing.
“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years,” according to Moore’s prepared testimony. “Today, we live in an unusually cold period in the history of life on earth and there is no reason to believe that a warmer climate would be anything but beneficial for humans and the majority of other species.”
“It is important to recognize, in the face of dire predictions about a [two degrees Celsius] rise in global average temperature, that humans are a tropical species,” Moore said. “We evolved at the equator in a climate where freezing weather did not exist. The only reasons we can survive these cold climates are fire, clothing, and housing.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/25/gr...#ixzz2uOjs5gcY
poncho
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That's why they are becoming more authoritarian by the minute. They aren't finding it so easy to swindle people anymore so they are resorting to using government force to make us conform to the UN's Agenda 21 and global governance which is a big part of what this "green" stuff is all about.
Personally I find it impossible to trust the judgement of anyone that advocates the use of government force to steal from some to give to others as a way of making things better for everyone.
Whether they be a liberal claiming it's "for the poor, or the birds and bees" or a conservative who makes the claim it's in our "national interest to fund and arm rebels all over the world".
Neither seem to have any qualms about violating the constitution and robbing their fellow citizens to further their agenda.
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thisnumbersdisconnected
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Ya know, I would have apologized to you, because I legitimately misread your post, but you kinda flubbed that up for yourself.
The Coming Revelation Of The 'Global Warming' Fraud Resembles The Obamacare Lie
The second shoe is preparing to drop to shatter the world view of so-called Progressives. Coming, global revelations will demonstrate the fraud behind the theory of man-caused, catastrophic, global warming, just like the real world has shattered the falsehoods behind Obamacare.
That is because the underlying reason for both frauds was the same: to expand government power. Enablers went along with the fraud in both cases for the same underlying reason – political correctness. In both cases, going along with the cause for the assumed public good without raising questions was considered the politically correct thing to do for all “good” people. Soon the enablers in both cases will have to pay the price for participating in and perpetuating the fraud.
This past weekend, Peggy Noonan summarized the Obamacare fraud in the Wall Street Journal, writing,
“They said if you liked your insurance you could keep your insurance—but that’s not true. It was never true! They said if you liked your doctor you could keep your doctor—but that’s not true. It was never true! They said they would cover everyone who needed it, and instead people who had coverage are losing it—millions of them! They said they would make insurance less expensive—but it’s more expensive! Premium shock, deductible shock. They said don’t worry, your health information will be secure, but instead the whole setup looks like a hacker’s holiday. Bad guys are apparently already going for your private information.”
That could have been drawn precisely from my commentary in this space last week.
The fact that Obamacare was always about power and not people is perfectly illustrated by the case of California resident Edie Littlefield Sundby. Since her gall bladder cancer was discovered 7 years ago, her private insurance company, United Healthcare, has spent $1.2 million to save her life. Edie explains that the insurance company, “has never once questioned any treatment or procedure recommended by my medical team. The company pays a fair price to the doctors and hospitals, on time, and is responsive to the emergency treatment requirements of late-stage cancer. Its caring people in the claims office have been readily available to talk to me and my providers.”
But Obamacare is driving United Health Care out of business altogether in California. So Edie is one of millions who have recently received an insurance cancellation letter, effective December 31. Just go to the Covered California Obamacare Exchange, which is working just as intended Obama has said, and get your Obamacare, “progressive” Obama apologists say. But there is no insurance on the highly touted Covered California Obamacare Exchange that includes coverage for the team of doctors that have kept her alive for a period with just a 2% probability, who range from her hometown of San Diego, to Stanford University in northern California, to Houston. Even though United Healthcare did, for an affordable price, before Obamacare.
But the response from the Obama White House has not been “progressive” concern for Edie. Instead, White House operatives have disparaged her. Now that the federal government has raised spending, taxes, and regulatory burdens by trillions to take over health care, the “progressives” are not worried about Edie.
Similarly, the theory of man-caused, catastrophic, global warming is embraced not because of any “science,” (that sham is for the “useful idiots,”), but because it is a justification for a government takeover of the energy industry, with massive increases in regulation, taxes and government spending. The United Nations loves it because it inspires fantasies of the UN growing up to be a world government, with real government powers of global taxation, spending and regulation, all “to save the planet.” Scientists who go along with the cause are rewarded not only with praise for their worthy social conscience, but also with altogether billions in hard, cold cash (government and environmental grants), for their cooperation in helping to play the “useful idiots.” Moreover, many academic scientists are “progressives” themselves, and so favor sharp increases in government spending, taxes and regulation, because they are certain they know how to run your life better than you do.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfe...al-warming-fraud-resembles-the-obamacare-lie/
The second shoe is preparing to drop to shatter the world view of so-called Progressives. Coming, global revelations will demonstrate the fraud behind the theory of man-caused, catastrophic, global warming, just like the real world has shattered the falsehoods behind Obamacare.
That is because the underlying reason for both frauds was the same: to expand government power. Enablers went along with the fraud in both cases for the same underlying reason – political correctness. In both cases, going along with the cause for the assumed public good without raising questions was considered the politically correct thing to do for all “good” people. Soon the enablers in both cases will have to pay the price for participating in and perpetuating the fraud.
This past weekend, Peggy Noonan summarized the Obamacare fraud in the Wall Street Journal, writing,
“They said if you liked your insurance you could keep your insurance—but that’s not true. It was never true! They said if you liked your doctor you could keep your doctor—but that’s not true. It was never true! They said they would cover everyone who needed it, and instead people who had coverage are losing it—millions of them! They said they would make insurance less expensive—but it’s more expensive! Premium shock, deductible shock. They said don’t worry, your health information will be secure, but instead the whole setup looks like a hacker’s holiday. Bad guys are apparently already going for your private information.”
That could have been drawn precisely from my commentary in this space last week.
The fact that Obamacare was always about power and not people is perfectly illustrated by the case of California resident Edie Littlefield Sundby. Since her gall bladder cancer was discovered 7 years ago, her private insurance company, United Healthcare, has spent $1.2 million to save her life. Edie explains that the insurance company, “has never once questioned any treatment or procedure recommended by my medical team. The company pays a fair price to the doctors and hospitals, on time, and is responsive to the emergency treatment requirements of late-stage cancer. Its caring people in the claims office have been readily available to talk to me and my providers.”
But Obamacare is driving United Health Care out of business altogether in California. So Edie is one of millions who have recently received an insurance cancellation letter, effective December 31. Just go to the Covered California Obamacare Exchange, which is working just as intended Obama has said, and get your Obamacare, “progressive” Obama apologists say. But there is no insurance on the highly touted Covered California Obamacare Exchange that includes coverage for the team of doctors that have kept her alive for a period with just a 2% probability, who range from her hometown of San Diego, to Stanford University in northern California, to Houston. Even though United Healthcare did, for an affordable price, before Obamacare.
But the response from the Obama White House has not been “progressive” concern for Edie. Instead, White House operatives have disparaged her. Now that the federal government has raised spending, taxes, and regulatory burdens by trillions to take over health care, the “progressives” are not worried about Edie.
Similarly, the theory of man-caused, catastrophic, global warming is embraced not because of any “science,” (that sham is for the “useful idiots,”), but because it is a justification for a government takeover of the energy industry, with massive increases in regulation, taxes and government spending. The United Nations loves it because it inspires fantasies of the UN growing up to be a world government, with real government powers of global taxation, spending and regulation, all “to save the planet.” Scientists who go along with the cause are rewarded not only with praise for their worthy social conscience, but also with altogether billions in hard, cold cash (government and environmental grants), for their cooperation in helping to play the “useful idiots.” Moreover, many academic scientists are “progressives” themselves, and so favor sharp increases in government spending, taxes and regulation, because they are certain they know how to run your life better than you do.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfe...al-warming-fraud-resembles-the-obamacare-lie/
BY the way in 2005 Al Gore told the world the Polar Ice caps would be gone in 5 years if we did not do something then. Well nothing has been done and the Polar Ice Caps have done nothing but grown.
Global Warming: A Convenient Lie
Recently, a documentary aired on the UK’s Channel 4, entitled “The Great Global Warming Swindle”, which challenged the prevailing political understanding that global warming is caused by man-made activity. The movie argues that it is in fact the sun that is responsible for the current changes in the Earth’s temperature and the film is riddled with the testimony of many scientists and climate experts, furthering a growing dissent to the man-made theory. After all, that’s all it is, a theory. As soon as people start to state that “the debate is over”, beware, because the fundamental basis of all sciences is that debate is never over, that questions must be asked and answered and issues raised in order for the science to be accurate. So what exactly are the arguments behind the Sun being the main cause of global warming?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-warming-a-convenient-lie/5086
Recently, a documentary aired on the UK’s Channel 4, entitled “The Great Global Warming Swindle”, which challenged the prevailing political understanding that global warming is caused by man-made activity. The movie argues that it is in fact the sun that is responsible for the current changes in the Earth’s temperature and the film is riddled with the testimony of many scientists and climate experts, furthering a growing dissent to the man-made theory. After all, that’s all it is, a theory. As soon as people start to state that “the debate is over”, beware, because the fundamental basis of all sciences is that debate is never over, that questions must be asked and answered and issues raised in order for the science to be accurate. So what exactly are the arguments behind the Sun being the main cause of global warming?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-warming-a-convenient-lie/5086
Gore has to take a note from the failed prophecies of others. He needs to forecast certain calamities far enough into the future that he would not be living then. His dire prognostication dates should be beyond the time of his contemporaries.