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Media knows how to use association.

exscentric

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Trying to associate killers, white supremacists and the tea party it would seem.

Headline: "Las Vegas cop killers may have white supremacy links:"

"The newspaper's report also said the shooters covered the officers' bodies with something featuring the Revolutionary War-era Gadsden flag. The yellow flag, which contains an image of a coiled snake and the words "Don't tread on me," is associated with the conservative Tea Party political movement."

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/las-vegas-cop-killers-may-have-white-supremacy-links-report
 
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Why am I not surprised?
 

Zaac

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Trying to associate killers, white supremacists and the tea party it would seem.

Headline: "Las Vegas cop killers may have white supremacy links:"

"The newspaper's report also said the shooters covered the officers' bodies with something featuring the Revolutionary War-era Gadsden flag. The yellow flag, which contains an image of a coiled snake and the words "Don't tread on me," is associated with the conservative Tea Party political movement."

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/las-vegas-cop-killers-may-have-white-supremacy-links-report

So are you saying there AREN'T any killers or White Supremacists associated with the Tea Party for 100% certainty?

It's politics and that's what both sides try to do: sully the other. There are killers and White AND Black Supremacists associated with the Tea Party, the Democrat Party and the GOP. So it wouldn't surprise me to find out that there is a bit of truth in the story.

It is possible.

Law enforcement officials are looking into whether a man and woman who killed two Las Vegas police officers and a third person before killing themselves Sunday had links to the white supremacy movement, according to a report on Monday.

Assistant Sheriff Kevin McMahill said the two suspects, Jerad Miller and his wife, Amanda, had ideology that was along the lines of "militia and white supremacists" and that law enforcement was the "oppressor."

McMahill said the shootings were an isolated act and officers were still looking for a motive.


Las vegas shooting: Jared and Amanda MillerLas Vegas Metropolitan Police
Jared and Amanda Miller, suspects in the Las Vegas shooting.
The two officers were having lunch at a strip mall pizza buffet when the Millers fatally shot them at point-blank range in an ambush. The suspects then fled to a nearby Wal-Mart, where they killed a third person and then themselves in an apparent suicide pact, authorities said.

The attack at a CiCi's Pizza restaurant killed Officers Alyn Beck, 41, and Igor Soldo, 31, who are both husbands and fathers. Jerad Miller yelled, "This is a revolution!" McMahill said.

McMahill said at a news conference Monday that both suspects fired multiple shots into Beck. They then placed a note, a yellow "Don't tread on me" flag and a swastika on the officers' bodies.

The deadly rampage in the aging shopping center about 5 miles northeast of the Las Vegas Strip took place in a matter of minutes.

Police were called at 11:22 a.m. to the pizzeria. Shots were reported five minutes later at a nearby Wal-Mart, where the shooters gunned down 31-year-old Joseph Wilcox of Las Vegas just inside the front door and exchanged gunfire with police before killing themselves, authorities and the Clark County coroner's office said.

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/las-vegas-cop-killers-may-have-white-supremacy-links-report

Did the story mention the Tea Party at all? Or are we making an association about what the person who wrote the story is doing?
 
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exscentric

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"So are you saying there AREN'T any killers or White Supremacists associated with the Tea Party for 100% certainty?"
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Read the original post, am I?
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"There are killers and White AND Black Supremacists associated with the Tea Party, the Democrat Party and the GOP. So it wouldn't surprise me to find out that there is a bit of truth in the story."
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General sweeping statement without any proof - footnotes are always nice.
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"Did the story mention the Tea Party at all? Or are we making an association about what the person who wrote the story is doing?"
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Again, read the original post the quote mentions the tea party does it not?
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If you have something to say, try saying it instead of trying to make the op look silly. You show your lack of interest in your lack of reading the op it would seem.
 

exscentric

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Zaac

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Read the original post, am I?

I wasn't sure. That's why I asked.

General sweeping statement without any proof - footnotes are always nice.

No more of a general sweeping than you made with the OP.

Again, read the original post the quote mentions the tea party does it not?

The story you linked doesn't mention the Tea Party. YOU do. It's your association, not theirs.

If you have something to say, try saying it instead of trying to make the op look silly. You show your lack of interest in your lack of reading the op it would seem.

I said what I intended to say and was not trying to make anyone look silly, The OP claims an association is attempting to be made to those killers, White Supremacists and the Tea Party. But the linked article doesn't mention the Tea Party.
 
So are you saying there AREN'T any killers or White Supremacists associated with the Tea Party for 100% certainty?
No more so than you can say there are no killers or white supremists associated with the Democrats. Of course, that's the party they were all affiliated with three or four generations ago, so it stands to reason some still are.

It's a stupid question. Let me know when you find something -- anything -- of a temporal nature that is 100% certain, willya?
 

Zaac

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No more so than you can say there are no killers or white supremists associated with the Democrats.


That's why I asked the question because as far as I've seen there are.

Of course, that's the party they were all affiliated with three or four generations ago, so it stands to reason some still are.

As a majority of the Blacks and the Jews are there, it's more probable that they hightailed it into the GOP to disassociate.

It's a stupid question. Let me know when you find something -- anything -- of a temporal nature that is 100% certain, willya?


So the answer is NO as I suspected. Just more partisan politics under the guise of something else.
 

exscentric

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"The story you linked doesn't mention the Tea Party. YOU do. It's your association, not theirs."



I ask you to read the op - it is a quote in quote marks from the article that I read and quoted from.

MSN now has a different article on that link or the link got messed up when it was posted.
 
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carpro

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Did the story mention the Tea Party at all? Or are we making an association about what the person who wrote the story is doing?

You might try reading the OP.

I might save you from asking embarrassingly stupid question. :wavey:
 

Jkdbuck76

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Hmmm.... association isn't important if it's Barack Obama with Jeremiah Wright and/or Bill Ayers. Yes, these talking heads have an agenda.
 

Zaac

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You might try reading the OP.

I might save you from asking embarrassingly stupid question. :wavey:

I don't embarass very easily. By the way,you might try reading the ACTUAL story. It doesn't mention the Tea Party. The person who started this thread does. :thumbs:
 

Zaac

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Hmmm.... association isn't important if it's Barack Obama with Jeremiah Wright and/or Bill Ayers. Yes, these talking heads have an agenda.

Their agenda is the same as is the agenda of those on the opposite side of them: to keep their side in power.
 

exscentric

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I don't embarass very easily. By the way,you might try reading the ACTUAL story. It doesn't mention the Tea Party. The person who started this thread does. :thumbs:

The original story used tea party AS QUOTED and as stated in the thread unless you are calling me a liar.
 

exscentric

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MSN has changed their first article. My link goes to the one mentioning Bundy now - if you look to the right there is an article list most popular - one is Las Vegas cop killers - that is the article I linked to however that article now links as does my link to the Bundy article.
 

Zaac

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The original story used tea party AS QUOTED and as stated in the thread unless you are calling me a liar.

There is nothing in the link that you posted originally that mentions the Tea Party. I read it a few minutes after you posted but didn't reply till later. But I didn't see any mention of the Tea Party then or now.
 

Zaac

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MSN has changed their first article. My link goes to the one mentioning Bundy now - if you look to the right there is an article list most popular - one is Las Vegas cop killers - that is the article I linked to however that article now links as does my link to the Bundy article.


Was able to find what may have been the original. Reuters will usually kep the original.

(Reuters) - Law enforcement officials are looking into whether a man and woman who killed two Las Vegas police officers and a third person before killing themselves Sunday had links to the white supremacy movement, according to a report on Monday.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal, citing city law enforcement sources, said investigators discovered paraphernalia associated with white supremacists, including swastika symbols, but it was not clear where the items was found.

The newspaper's report also said the shooters covered the officers' bodies with something featuring the Revolutionary War-era Gadsden flag. The yellow flag, which contains an image of a coiled snake and the words "Don't tread on me," is associated with the conservative Tea Party political movement.
 

exscentric

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That is fine - accepted - does not negate validity of my copy/paste of the original article that is in quotes unless you think I am a liar. Nuff said me thinks.
 

exscentric

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Well one more thing - Googled - msn tea party las vegas - got the original article title" and description HOWEVER it goes to the Bundy article.

From Google:
Las Vegas cop killers may have white supremacy links: report


news.msn.com/.../las-vegas-cop-killers-may-have-white-supremacy-...
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12 hours ago - LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Law enforcement officials are looking into whether ... is associated with the conservative Tea Party political movement."
 
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