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The "Literal" NASU? Really?
- Thread starter Rippon
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Psalms
50:13 : strong ones
50:18 : your part is with adulterers.
50:19 : You send your mouth loose in evil.
51:4 : pure when you judge
54:4 : The Lord is as those who sustain
55:5 : shuddering has overwhelmed me
55:6 : I would fly away and settle down
55:9 : Swallow up, O Lord
55:13 : a man according to my valuation
55:20 : He has profaned his covenant
55:21 : His mouth
50:13 : strong ones
50:18 : your part is with adulterers.
50:19 : You send your mouth loose in evil.
51:4 : pure when you judge
54:4 : The Lord is as those who sustain
55:5 : shuddering has overwhelmed me
55:6 : I would fly away and settle down
55:9 : Swallow up, O Lord
55:13 : a man according to my valuation
55:20 : He has profaned his covenant
55:21 : His mouth
Concluding passages from Psalms that I will list.
56:4 : What can mere flesh do to me?
56;6 : They watch my heels
58:7 : When he bends his arrows, let them be as though they were cut off
58:9 : the living
59:4 : Arouse Yourself to meet me
59:5 : Awake to visit all the nations
59:13 : Bring to an end
56:4 : What can mere flesh do to me?
56;6 : They watch my heels
58:7 : When he bends his arrows, let them be as though they were cut off
58:9 : the living
59:4 : Arouse Yourself to meet me
59:5 : Awake to visit all the nations
59:13 : Bring to an end
From info I had in an old thread regarding the TNIV (and I assume would apply to the NIV).
In Proverbs chapters 1-21 there are 229 occasions where the Lit. was noted in the margin and not in the text itself. The text has a more idiomatic reading.
In the HCSB of the same section there are 73 footnotes noting the Lit. while a more idiomatic expression is used in the text.
Staying with the HCSB :
The NASU has 17 of the Lit. in the text
The ESV has 15
The TNIV has 14
I would say that the TNIV/NIV is in pretty good company ;-)
In Proverbs chapters 1-21 there are 229 occasions where the Lit. was noted in the margin and not in the text itself. The text has a more idiomatic reading.
In the HCSB of the same section there are 73 footnotes noting the Lit. while a more idiomatic expression is used in the text.
Staying with the HCSB :
The NASU has 17 of the Lit. in the text
The ESV has 15
The TNIV has 14
I would say that the TNIV/NIV is in pretty good company ;-)
With 378 views? Yes, indeed.
Judging from the above, you are a prime candidate for the NIrV.
In the text of the NASU: the miry clay
In the text of the NIV : the mud and the mire
Text of NASU : My heart has failed me
Text of NIV : my heart fails within me
Text of NASU : sustain him upon his sickbed
Text of NIV : sustain them on their sickbed
Text of NASU : my exceeding joy
Text of NIV : my joy and my delight
Text of NASU : victories
Text of NIV : victories
Text of NASU : to be eaten
Text of NIV : to be devoured
Text of NASU : A laughingstock
Text of NIV : shake their heads
Text of NASU : My humilation has overwhelmed me
Text of NIV : My face is covered with shame
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So in three of the above examples the NIV retains the so-called literal rendering.
NASU text : when morning dawns
NIV text : at break of day
NASU text : he raised
NIV text : he lifts
NASU text : He is highly exalted
NIV text : He is greatly exalted
NASU text : they fled in alarm
NIV text : they fled in terror
NASU text : panic
NIV text : Trembling
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The NIV got one of the five examples in a so-called more literal manner.
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NASU : I will express
NIV : I will expound
[The NIV is closer. Expound means to explain. Express just means to communicate.]
NASU : my foes
NIV : wicked deceivers
[Not merely 'foes' as the NASU has it; wicked deceivers comes closer to the meaning.]
NASU : man in his pomp...perish
NIV : People despite their wealth...perish
[Pomp just means pageantry --showing off --while "wealth" is better here. Despite all their wealth --they will not endure.]
NASU : they have no habitation
NIV : far from their princely mansions
NASU : the power of Sheol
NIV : from the realm of the dead
NASU : while he lives
NIV : while they live
Thanks, but prefer to stay with my trusty Nasb/Esv/1984 Niv versions!
NASU : you associate with adulterers
NIV : you throw your lot in with adulterers
NASU : You let your mouth loose in evil.
NIV : You use your mouth for evil.
NASU : blameless when you judge
NIV : justified when You judge
NASU : The Lord is the sustainer of my soul.
NIV : The Lord is the one who sustaines me.
NASU : Fear and trembling come upon me.
NIV : Fear and trembling have beset me.
["Come upon me" is not as close as "beset me."
NASU : be at rest
NIV : be at rest
NASU : confuse
NIV : confuse
NASU : a man my equal
NIV : a man like myself
NASU : mere man
NIV : mere mortals
NASU : distort my words
NIV : twist my words
NASU : Arouse Yourself to help me and see!
NIV : Arise to help me; look on my plight!
NASU : punish all the nations
NIV : punish all the nations
NASU : to the ends of the earth
NIV : to the ends of the earth
Well, you'll have to do better to stay informed.
Spoken by someone who isn't informed.
Hardy har har. I suppose you are ignorant of my many threads commending the NLT, Norlie, MLB, REB, Phillips and many more.
[QUOTE="Rippon, post: 2199212, member: 2998"
Hardy har har. I suppose you are ignorant of my many threads commending the NLT, Norlie, MLB, REB, Phillips and many more.[/QUOTE]
I asked because it seems that your posts in some manner reject both the KJV and NASB in favor of the NIV.
Hardy har har. I suppose you are ignorant of my many threads commending the NLT, Norlie, MLB, REB, Phillips and many more.[/QUOTE]
I asked because it seems that your posts in some manner reject both the KJV and NASB in favor of the NIV.