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Featured Ben Shapiro Explains in Under Six Minutes Why You Shouldn’t Back Trump

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Rolfe, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. Rolfe

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    I knew Trump lied, I knew Trump owned gambling dens, I knew Trump was bankrupt 4 times, but I did not know that Trump casinos were also strip joints. Hopefully, the early primary voters will wake up and smell the coffee,
     
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    The bankrupt thing is neither here nor there. A no issue.
     
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    I can do it in 6 seconds.

    He's a phony conservative.
     
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    Yep. It amazes me how many who call themselves Conservative ignore Trump's past political positions and actions.
     
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    Trump is an opportunist. His motivation is money. He has no principles or standards to go by except money. He has contributed to his campaign and voted for Reagan. He has contributed to Democrats. He does what is financially expedient. His idea of making America great again all has to do with money.

    He is not a conservative. He is not a liberal. He is not a Republican. He is not a Democrat. He is and always will be an opportunist.

    Whatever opportunity makes him the most money that is what he is for. If it takes away from making money for him, he is against it.
     
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    Why do you say that? Doesn't it deal with the issue of Trump's economic leadership?
     
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    no, successful billionaires all have made and lost money over and over again. We would not gig Michael Jordan for all the missed shots he has made. Abraham Lincoln lost every election until he ran for President.

    Wealthy people are wealthy because they take risks others do not. They do not always pay off. Trump used the legal system to deal with it. None of that suggests he would bankrupt the country. Two different applications of money use.
     
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    Lincoln was elected to serve 12 years in the Illinois House of Representatives, and was elected to the United States House of Representatives in 1846. :)

    And David Green, owner of Hobby Lobby, is a billionaire (some estimate his net worth as being greater than Trumps) who has never lost large amounts of money nor ever filed bankruptcy. In fact it is widely reported that he has given over $500 million (that's half a billion) to evangelical ministries as of 2012. Add in the past 3 years and the total goes way up.

    How much as Trump given? :D
     
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    #11 Revmitchell, Mar 1, 2016
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    Okay what about:
    Trump University--Fail
    Trump Mortgage--Fail
    Trump Steaks--Fail
    Trump Airlines--Fail
    Trump Shuttle--Fail
    Trump Vodka--Fail
    Trump Magazine--Fail
    GoTrump.com--Fail
    Trump, the Game--Fail
    Trump Ice--Fail
    The NJ Generals football team, the USFL--Fail
    Miss USA Pageant--Fail

    But, hey, "let's make America great again. We're not winning anymore."
     
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    http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/education/failures.htm
     
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    One of the problems with Trump is that we have no complete details about his financial history.

    One or two of his bankruptcies deal with his gambling dens--and casinos are not normal economic investments but attempts to fleece the public.

    From what I read, it was not always his money that was lost but the money of other people who signed on to his deals.

    What would the American economy be like under Trump? Does Trump understand how to improve our economy? Does he have any plans?
     
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    Yes.
    We're going to start winning again. We don't win anymore.
    We're going to bring back jobs from China, from Japan, and from Mexico.
    We're going to make good deals. We don't make good deals anymore.

    That's his plan.
     
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    Thank you Senator Bentsen. :D :D
     
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    We all have more failures than we do successes in life. There is enough issues with Trump to go around without making mountains out of molehills just because we do not like him.

    Of course if it is really that important to you then all is good with me. But its not to me.


    Although....................with all the liberals who said they would leave the country if Trump gets elected it can be very tempting.
     
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    Seriously. Is that all you got? Do you really think I was trying to say Trump was a Lincoln? Did you miss the point on purpose or are you really that ............well whatever choose your own word.
     
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